Europe should we stay in or get out?
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If this trend continues with the results (i.e. leave over-performing), then this is comfortably the biggest miss for the opinion pollsters in decades.
Still the big cities to come, however. I think it will get worse before it gets better, but it depends whether better is going to be enough...
Still the big cities to come, however. I think it will get worse before it gets better, but it depends whether better is going to be enough...
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I got a small bet in at 6/1 for leave to hedge my bets a bit. I'd happily wave bye-bye to that money, but there's now a distinct possibility that I won't get a chance to do so.
A gigantic miss for the opinion polling industry if this trend continues. Not sure how they could get it so catastrophically wrong.
Remain looks likely to over-perform in London, but they have a lot of work to do if they're going to make up the under-performing remain vote elsewhere.
I'm starting to get the impression that the late swing to the status quo hasn't materialised. If anything, it appears to have gone the other way.
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Turnout definitely doesn't seem to be favouring remain. Perhaps that is what will hand it to leave. Scotland's turnout is lower than England's, and London's turnout isn't exactly known to be massive.
Very large leads in London, though. They're out-performing expectations considerably, but when every vote counts, it's all going to come down to turnout.
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Where are you looking at stats?
I have The Guardian and The Daily Mail open, but DM's interface is a bit clunky.
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I have to say I'm close to calling this for leave. The trend of leave over-performing just keeps on going.
Would take some big, big remain results in Scotland, NI, London, Birmingham and Manchester to have any hope, but they don't seem to be forthcoming.
Oh well, if it happens, at least I'll have the opportunity for an "I told you so" moment in a few years time.
Would take some big, big remain results in Scotland, NI, London, Birmingham and Manchester to have any hope, but they don't seem to be forthcoming.
Oh well, if it happens, at least I'll have the opportunity for an "I told you so" moment in a few years time.
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Don't worry mate I'm starting a new project in a couple of weeks that I was planning on messaging you about. Will be too bitter to do that if we leave though
1-3 or 1-4 on leave now, starting to look good
Silver linings!
At least my bet on leave will come through if this trend continues. It's astounding how wrong the polls have been. This is a far worse miss than the last General Election.
Hope is gradually dwindling away. Leave has just been out-performing much more almost everywhere. It seems as though the vast majority of England is voting leave with only London being the strong exception.
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Remain win in Manchester, but the win just isn't quite big enough.
Whilst I think this will be disastrous for the UK, I suppose it gives myself and everyone the opportunity to see what is actually going to happen. Taking a step back to view it on purely objective terms, it will be a very interesting "project" for the world to deal with, so to speak.
Keeps things spiced up a little bit I suppose.
Whilst I think this will be disastrous for the UK, I suppose it gives myself and everyone the opportunity to see what is actually going to happen. Taking a step back to view it on purely objective terms, it will be a very interesting "project" for the world to deal with, so to speak.
Keeps things spiced up a little bit I suppose.
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The sad thing about this is that the UK leaving is going to trigger a severe downturn within the EU, but we'll be dragged down along with it just as much due to already being out of the EMU and Euro, and also having the vast majority of our import and export trade with the EU.
I just hope that when the downturn happens, leave voters do accept responsibility for it. I think it would be most frustrating of all if leave supporters blame someone or something else for what is about to happen.
BBC and ITV have called the win for leave now. It's over. Now the interesting part begins, and I think the next decade is going to be very interesting indeed.
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Do any leave supporters feel any sense of loss at all? Even slightly?
I find it quite sad that this huge union of countries, one of the most astonishing feats of human achievement, will go marching on without us.
I've suddenly became acutely aware that we're on this little island all by ourselves now with no one to rely on.
I find it quite sad that this huge union of countries, one of the most astonishing feats of human achievement, will go marching on without us.
I've suddenly became acutely aware that we're on this little island all by ourselves now with no one to rely on.
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I agree, but I don't think it will be much, but I could be wrong. And as an ardent outer I have never hidden that belief. However, I think its clear that everyone that matters (not the EU commissioners) will be making sure everything is done to stabilise everything. At current, all that has changed is illusory and I feel trade terms will stay pretty much as are.
The China markets have gone down 50% this year. I doubt we will be seeing that.
I see a massive global crash as inevitable; probably by the end of 2018. There is the possibility this could bring it forward, but I think when it does happen, Britain will be in a better position.
The main loss I feel is the £10,000 loss in purchasing power my £ has on the global markets, but that is largely outweighed by $, BTC and gold holdings.
There is a hint of sadness, but I never liked the EU. I am for localism, direct democracy; smaller units deciding their own future. So rather than Sturegeon or Cameron forcing in some areas unpopular policies on entire countries, areas can suits themselves and be more responsive. In this system, if you don't like one setup, at least there would be many others you can choose from. There is a lot of talk when it comes to diversity in terms of skin colour gender and sexuality, but there is very little tolerance for political and economic preferences. I am happy for Scotland to go its socialist way, I'd just prefer to be in the climate of the UKIP riviera.
For direct democracy!
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news
51.8% Leave!!!!
Predicted result: Leave 52%, Remain 48%
If these are the real results...
I LOVE BRITISH PEOPLE!!!!
51.8% Leave!!!!
Predicted result: Leave 52%, Remain 48%
If these are the real results...
I LOVE BRITISH PEOPLE!!!!
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news
51.8% Leave!!!!
Predicted result: Leave 52%, Remain 48%
If these are the real results...
I LOVE BRITISH PEOPLE!!!!
Scotland and Northern Ireland both voted to remain.
You've just seen the beginning of the end of the United Kingdom. Still, you get to wave a flag.
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I feel a sense of accomplishment.
I think if a lot of people hadn't voted based on "better than the devil you know" basis the margin would have been much wider.
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The analysis of why people voted to leave will be interesting and if it is down to immigration then it's not surprising that Scotland voted to remain as it seems that hardly any of the immigrants have chosen to live in Scotland.
My own town voted overwhelming to leave and I think that the immigrant population is quite low here so perhaps it is other factors in play like believing in democracy and not having so much of our lives ruled by unelected European eurocrats.
Hopefully Cameron will stay on to start the process of brexiting
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news
51.8% Leave!!!!
Predicted result: Leave 52%, Remain 48%
If these are the real results...
I LOVE BRITISH PEOPLE!!!!
At least you got the flag right because NI and Scotland could well decide to leave the UK and re-join the EU in their own right.
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