how to increase backlinks?
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wannabfound
I agree, articles, blogs, classifieds is not something you should be concentrating on. You need to make sure your site is worthy of people linking to your content, make your site aimed at the customer not the search engines.
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Increasing backlinks for the sake of getting backlinks is probably going to do you more damage in the long term...backlinks from big authority sites which are relevant to your industry and created genuinely because you are creating awesome stuff is where you want to be. Forget backlinks for now, make sure you're site is the best it can be and then focus on how you can be helpful and add tons of value that other people will want to link back to.
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mediaguy35
What's happened (most likely) - is you've been identified as a spammer or at least a non-payer by directories and been removed. Most directories now use Wordpress, this captures IP addresses and by using a simple tool, can tell the host name and see if your legitimate or not.
I suspect (rightly or wrongly), they feel you are not genuine and you've been zapped from their database. Very tough to get free stuff nowadays.
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Really? I suspect that will be surprising news to all the major directories all of whom don't use wordpress. The directories who do use wordpress are mostly junk who couldn't care less what your IP address is.
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@Isla6
Incorrect - as long as the directory includes a weblink and is well promoted - then it can work.
Suggest that directory industry has gone fully niche now, and apart from the few all purpose jobbies that exist, most wont deliver masses of visitors, but the weblink will have value as its clickable. One single standard listing wont do the job anymore - now you need 5 or 6 on every directory or at least opt for featured listings for this to work, and advertising has always been about mass adverts to stand out. Consider this... there's about 2 million legit companies online today, so its obvious its tougher to been seen online, so its not the directories that's made this tougher, its the number of websites thats increased that's the problem, the web is bigger than say 5 years ago.
Incorrect - as long as the directory includes a weblink and is well promoted - then it can work.
Suggest that directory industry has gone fully niche now, and apart from the few all purpose jobbies that exist, most wont deliver masses of visitors, but the weblink will have value as its clickable. One single standard listing wont do the job anymore - now you need 5 or 6 on every directory or at least opt for featured listings for this to work, and advertising has always been about mass adverts to stand out. Consider this... there's about 2 million legit companies online today, so its obvious its tougher to been seen online, so its not the directories that's made this tougher, its the number of websites thats increased that's the problem, the web is bigger than say 5 years ago.
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@fisicx
Wordpress is a huge company, blogs use it, directories use it etc, and its cheaper than paying a designer to programme something bespoke anyway... The talk on forums about 'lost links' just proves that people are being deleted left right and centre, and that their being 'watched' or put into 'pending' while the dir owner checks them out. Big brother is watching us all.
Some junk directory wont have the cash to afford a Wordpress system, as its going to cost at least £2k to set one up. This means that anything that uses Wordpress must have money behind it, is of quality and can often be part of something larger than is assumed at first glance.
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This is a joke isn't it. Wordpress is free. Directory plugins are free. I could set you up a directory site in about 10 minutes.
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mediaguy35
Most folks aren't programmers and not web designers, so it will cost to hire someone to design a site, MySql etc. Then you got the marketing of it blah blah.
Then other costs like SEO, link buying and content generation, blog system, logo design, extra pages for content - it can be expensive, so before long you've spent £5k on what you thought could be done for some £200 script
Good sites cost money, and I think you know this.
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This is even more of a joke. You said most directories use Wordpress and now you are suggesting a simple WP directory will cost you 5K!
Do you have any idea at all how a CMS actually works?
I don't want to appear rude or childish but setting up a wordpress directory will cost you nothing at all. What costs the money is marketing and making it successful, not the platform it sits on.
Do you have any idea at all how a CMS actually works?
I don't want to appear rude or childish but setting up a wordpress directory will cost you nothing at all. What costs the money is marketing and making it successful, not the platform it sits on.
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mediaguy35
Only if the entrepreneur also happens to be a web designer - most ain't, but most designers I know won't do squat for free - they charge for everything. I'm quite sure you charge for your design services.
My rough site design costs over the years:
Copywriter biz site - £50
1st Basic directory - £100ish (and I do mean basic.....)
2nd directory - £25'000 (including 3 re-designs)
Blog - £200
Forum - £200ish for license
Job Board - £2'500
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Directory turnover - £18'000 2nd year of trading. We spend roughly £3k per site, each site brings in at least 12k per annum, and traffic is easy to transfer to each site, site gains fast traffic, gets bookmarked and repeat traffic sets in. Just rinse and repeat methods, but quality and no half measures, and no rushing to build the greatest site stuff either. just planning and gradual build-up of content and traffic.
There was a blog platform, and was run by I think 3 friends, who devoted much time to it, they struggled and nearly had to shut it down, it was eventually bought by Google. Another directory sold for 2 million to Yell.com (I forget the name now) - and a Travel site began life as a bedroom project by 2 mates - called HolidayWatchdog.com - acquired by Expedia.
Ofcourse, there could be some luck involved eg: right time, right model - but ultimately its the idea that makes a website work, the cash just accelerates the in-bound traffic flow. Just one of my websites got 1600 sign-ups in 12 months online, just by word of mouth, no ads, no press, a few hundred links in the right places so b2b's could find us.
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That Bates Girl
It's nice to see a young actor taking time off from his role in Eastenders to learn about the noble art of backlinking.
Tell me, with this 'forum posting' suggestion you make, do you think I should use my own photo, or should I just steal one of a well known actor from the internet?
Lyds
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That Bates Girl
Twin brother? I thought it he had a twin sister - and there's just been a major storyline with her dying (so I've picked up from the front of various magazines) so it can't be her posting.
This is Eastenders, not Sunset Beach.
Lyds
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Write about the stuff people are searching for. Use headers and page titles to support the content. Alt text on your images. Lots of strong internal linking. Add lots of TEXT content. Make sure address and contact details on the site. Keep the content to code ration high. Make sure you have a responsive site. Sign up to Google plus. Don't put all your best material on social networks. Engage with other websites (not for the links but to increase your intenet profile). Support other sites to gain relevant links. Pay someone who knows what they are doing to help.
Consider that you could do 100 hours of DIY SEO and get notihng. Or pay someone £1000 and see a return on your investment with in a few days.
Consider that you could do 100 hours of DIY SEO and get notihng. Or pay someone £1000 and see a return on your investment with in a few days.
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So much bad advice in this thread. Forget about backlinks (almost). What you have to put effort into is creating the cause of backlinks which are really online endorsements from people who value the content.
The question you should be asking is - what kind of content should I create to get people sharing and and discussing that content.
The question you should be asking is - what kind of content should I create to get people sharing and and discussing that content.
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Here we go again
When Google has full details of who, what , when anybody visits your site on it's own vast array of databases that constantly watch the web, plus their vast number of mathematicians and annalists would they use such a basic tool as back-links to position anyone
They may have had a important place years ago but in this technological age its seems rather simple to believe they would use such a easily manipulated set of data
Come on guys get real and think about it or give a good reason why you think they would still use such poor data in preference to their own acquired data which is factual
When Google has full details of who, what , when anybody visits your site on it's own vast array of databases that constantly watch the web, plus their vast number of mathematicians and annalists would they use such a basic tool as back-links to position anyone
They may have had a important place years ago but in this technological age its seems rather simple to believe they would use such a easily manipulated set of data
Come on guys get real and think about it or give a good reason why you think they would still use such poor data in preference to their own acquired data which is factual
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ZeroDouble
I think we give google far too much credit sometimes...
Not to say that they don't use other things such as visitor metrics, page content, etc. etc, because they do, but Google still uses backlinks to determine a sites ranking in their SERPs, because that is how the core of their algorithm works.
Regardless of how you obtain them, [The right type of] backlinks rank sites.
Not to say that they don't use other things such as visitor metrics, page content, etc. etc, because they do, but Google still uses backlinks to determine a sites ranking in their SERPs, because that is how the core of their algorithm works.
Regardless of how you obtain them, [The right type of] backlinks rank sites.
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ZeroDouble
Obviously, I can't give you conclusive proof, as no-one outside of a select few at Google know the core inner workings of the algo.
However, I can tell you that as sure as the sun rises in the morning and sets at night, backlinks, particularly the right kind, will positively affect your ranking in the SERPS.
As above, build 2 near identical sites, point backlinks at one, and don't point any at the other. Domains are cheap and so is shared hosting.
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ZeroDouble
I could test it easily, as it's less that an hours work to throw up 2 WP sites, but what's the point in testing something I already know to be true?
Anyway, here's an image from a rank tracker of a churn and burn test site that was targeting several (decent) 5k keywords in a medium comp niche.
This is the chart for one of the keywords;
Nothing special there, but the site was 1 single page, had nothing special done to it except a ton of backlinks built, and had no earthly business being on page 1 (where it ended up). In fact, there were a ton of .gov and .ac.uk sites left in its wake.
I could show you many more similar charts. I wont, but the point is that I'm not just saying it, it's something I've tested many, many times, and is in fact commonly accepted as true.
Or, if you prefer to hear it straight from the horses mouth;
Anyway, here's an image from a rank tracker of a churn and burn test site that was targeting several (decent) 5k keywords in a medium comp niche.
This is the chart for one of the keywords;
Nothing special there, but the site was 1 single page, had nothing special done to it except a ton of backlinks built, and had no earthly business being on page 1 (where it ended up). In fact, there were a ton of .gov and .ac.uk sites left in its wake.
I could show you many more similar charts. I wont, but the point is that I'm not just saying it, it's something I've tested many, many times, and is in fact commonly accepted as true.
Or, if you prefer to hear it straight from the horses mouth;
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I took it from your post you had fully tested yourself
If you were Google in todays market with all their data would you really give much attention to this easily manipulated date
It's like a company like ford advertising mpg numbers obtained from a small back street garage who have a load of ford cars to sell rather than using their own test figures from official tests
There is just no logic or else Google is just a massive con
If you were Google in todays market with all their data would you really give much attention to this easily manipulated date
It's like a company like ford advertising mpg numbers obtained from a small back street garage who have a load of ford cars to sell rather than using their own test figures from official tests
There is just no logic or else Google is just a massive con
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