How Many H1 Tags on a Page

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SamApplegate

First of all, you shouldn't worry too much about exactly how much H1 you have on your page. As long as you don't have your whole page in H1. So 1, 2 or even 3 headings are fine. Use it naturally, as the name suggests - for headings.

I personally reserve my H1 tag for my primary title. Other headings I use H2, H3, H4, H5 and H6. I believe the more H1 you have, the more the keywords become diluted, until H1 means nothing.

But as I said, it's only a very small factor to determine relevance of a page, don't worry about it too much. See Matt Cutt's short video on H1 tags (he's a Google engineer).

http://youtu.be/GIn5qJKU8VM
 
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1 h1 tag on your page, which describes the content or purpose of the page. Other heading levels nested.

With HTML5 you'll be able to have multiple H1s for each <section>. But since you're not telling the user agent you are using HTML5 you should just use 1 h1.

Try and make your content as semantic as possible.
 
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Go for 1 h1 tag per page as other members have suggested. Use other heading tags for other areas of importance within your webpage content. The key is find the trade off between using keywords and using content to attract the web page viewers attention with your headings.

If you have css knowledge you can use your heading tags for your keywords and then style them to be less prominate and use eye catching titles with normal paragraph tags with a strong tag surrounding them. That way you're getting the best of both!
 
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Why? when a h2 tag is just the right size for what i want?

Massey the default visuals of HTML are irrelevant. These HTML tags carry semantic meaning in the document structure. If you are considering the visual result of using HTML tags, you're doing it wrong.

In front end it's called the separation of presentation, content and behaviour. Semantic HTML is key to robots and engines knowing what the content means.
 
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Massey the default visuals of HTML are irrelevant. These HTML tags carry semantic meaning in the document structure. If you are considering the visual result of using HTML tags, you're doing it wrong.

In front end it's called the separation of presentation, content and behaviour. Semantic HTML is key to robots and engines knowing what the content means.

I might be doing it wrong by the standards you like to work to..

Semantics may very well be key to helping a robot understand a page. But i am more interested in how this data is mixed in with other things that determine outcomes.

As the SEO industry has been full of people saying "you must have your major keywords in the h1 tag" for years, it is only natural that the webspam team at google have considered the h1 and revised a few things about it.
 
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I might be doing it wrong by the standards you like to work to..

Have a look at the first line of HTML on your website. It's not just me.

Semantics may very well be key to helping a robot understand a page.

That is my point.

But i am more interested in how this data is mixed in with other things that determine outcomes.

I'm sure there are many factors. Semantics, is one of them.
 
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Urban Publications

Why? when a h2 tag is just the right size for what i want?

Because CSS and H1 is web standards is it not

In my strong opinion h1 tags for seo purpose are a bit of an irrelevance now.

If anything, for seo purpose, it is possibly better to leave h1 off.

Leave H1...Never come across that before and are you not creating Accessability issues..does poor accessability help or hamper SEO efforts???
 
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Because CSS and H1 is web standards is it not

As long as my website displays well in a browser and ranks well on google i could not care what w3 webstandards has to say.

It is a grave misconception that you have to have clean code for search engines. I just looked at one of my sites and it has 67 errors and 2 warnings and it is romping in competitive markets.

Leave H1...Never come across that before and are you not creating Accessability issues..does poor accessability help or hamper SEO efforts???

There are plenty of people these days that don't bother with h1 tags. They used to be seo gold, now they are quite likely to be a hindrance, but there will be variables depending on other things.
 
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Romping to victory ;)

The web is getting fulled up with junk, too much content and too much crap. Hence why HTMl5 is introduced to compress a lot of it.
There are some good changes being made. Specifically author markups but as you said in another thread they are still a long way from solving spam.
 
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There are plenty of people these days that don't bother with h1 tags. They used to be seo gold, now they are quite likely to be a hindrance, but there will be variables depending on other things.


H1 a hindrance...no chance I have never come across this before...yes I agree content is king but how good is content without a h1 title and a h2 heading

Dont think a book without a title is going to do well in Waterstones...certainly not a best seller
 
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H1 a hindrance...no chance I have never come across this before...yes I agree content is king but how good is content without a h1 title and a h2 heading

Dont think a book without a title is going to do well in Waterstones...certainly not a best seller

I never said content is king :eek::D

It could be a hindrance but as i said it will be on variables to the individual site itself, the SEO circumstances.

You may well be following good practice for website design, but people who want to make money from their website are more interested in how the data is interpreted on their website by search engines, not w3 validators.

I always leave off h1 tags because my sites usually tick a lot of the boxes to rank well and i don't want to appear too seo'd. I generally put h1 tags on pages i'm not bothered about.
 
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H1 will only be a hindrance if you stuff it full of keywords and spam with it...In all circumsatnces when it is used correctly it will never cause any problems. How can SE penalise you for putting a title/main header on your page.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIn5qJKU8VM

And to add I was only saying "content is King" because of other users mentioned content...and like I said how good is content if we dont know what the content is about, I am sure I have read many times that your titles and headers are the most important to draw the user in to read the content.
 
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That's why he is an electrician ;)

I only decided to have a nosy in this section following the entertainment in Feedback, this section of the forum just keeps getting worse.

An electrician that knows more about SEO than a lot of people. Which is why i rank well for very competitive loan terms on google and most people do not :D

Bdw With respect, that is not good advice at all.

You say it's not good advice, but what are you basing this on? W3 standards?
 
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Actually I have no intention of getting into a discussion about this other than to say that using H1s properly is part of basic SEO. Anyone who disputes this is missing out on just one white hat opportunity. ;)

There is just too much information on the net backing this up that I feel that there is no need for me to reinforce it. Perhaps you could explain your radical theory?

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oh god you've done it now

Massey once deleted his H1s from the page and now believes as an element they are redundant, with no use.

He's demonstrated in this thread a misunderstanding of semantic HTML, proclaiming the default stylistic use of an H1.

He'll also demonstrate that pages look a lot more "real" to bots if they do contain incorrect markup, cause hey; people ain't perfect. Fine.

Of course, none of this negates the value of w3c standards, but that is the argument that always ends up being had so let's just not go there.
 
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Massey with no disrespect it isnt good advice..Im by fara SEO expert but I do know that h1 used correctly will never hinder your rankings.

It helps...and without getting shot myself I am using h1 with a CSS text indent of -9999 so I can use an image as a logo and I know mixed reviews but upon research I have noticed large companies and a hell of alot of people using this tactic.

To be honest the amount of source pages I have read I can honestly say I cant remember coming across one that isnt using h1 for either page or main title
 
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