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DancingWithPoodles
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- #42
I will convert it to outdoor swimming pool party area. Then every Friday and Saturday I will invite 200 people for parties American College style theme and charge them £10 per person and they can bring whatever they like to bring to eat and drink I am not providing anything.
If let say I have at 50% of capacity each time this is £1000 per night. Then deduct £150 for cleaning and £150 for maintenance and you are left with minimum £700 per night profit = £1400 per week plus you can enjoy the party and have sex with lots of women
that what i gonna do anyway
If let say I have at 50% of capacity each time this is £1000 per night. Then deduct £150 for cleaning and £150 for maintenance and you are left with minimum £700 per night profit = £1400 per week plus you can enjoy the party and have sex with lots of women
that what i gonna do anyway
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JohnnyCash
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- #43
Well your first post said you want to make money from it, building a gym in an out building then you being the only person using it is not going to achieve that...
If it was me I'd give up on making money from it and keep livestock on it, sounds interesting. Or I'd just accept the only way to do anything realistic with it is get planning permission to build.
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Parthelan
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- #44
Theres a lot of people following this with interest it seems, including me. Can you update about the validation process, and how about keeping the blog and your signature up to day each day? Have you started a video diary? Anything on FB or youtube? Do you run the same route every day? I totally back what you are doing, but youve set yourself a monumental target, and I dont think the way youre approaching this is doing yourself or the superhuman effort youre putting into this much good.
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Jason_Fisher
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- #46
I have been told by a few people to regroup and start it again for 2012 but start planning for it now. I have been given so many ideas of how to raise the target, and make it more appealing for people to follow etc. I have carried on though, as i'm sure people will see it as a failure if i pulled out now, even if it was to start again in 2012. The validation side of things, i am wearing a tag like computer system, which sends the data directly to a computer, which tracks miles, time, etc,
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JohnnyCash
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- #51
In theory sounds good... but he lives in a village so I'm guessing there is not the market to get 100 people every single fri and saturday night... you're trying to sell to the same limited crowd over and over again and they're going to quickly get bored of it.
Something like that would certainly be good in the short term as paying £10 and getting your alcohol from Tesco is going to be significantly cheaper than going to bars/clubs etc!
I assume there is a whole load of licensing laws and other regulations too, even if you're not selling them alcohol directly.
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Set up a Company
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- #57
I would suggest a caravan club site. There is a house near mine with a plot of land running alongside their house, probably the same size as yours. They are fully booked with anything up to 10 caravans all summer. You just provide a tap, electricity and toilet facilities (temporary or build some) and there you go! Good usage of the land, make some good friends, and make some money.
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JohnnyCash
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- #60
Lol. I realise most people with caravans are not, but someone local to me when I was a kid rented out a field to a bunch of people with caravans and it was horrendous...
If you're going to rent it out for that I'd make sure its for holiday makers and not people who are going to live there.
Filling it with pigs is the best idea so far imo. (I mean the 4 legged ones, not gypies...)
If you're going to rent it out for that I'd make sure its for holiday makers and not people who are going to live there.
Filling it with pigs is the best idea so far imo. (I mean the 4 legged ones, not gypies...)
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If she sees him flushing his pocket money down the toilet again then he is getting such a grounding.
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Jason_Fisher
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- #66
I like the pig idea. I actually watched a program the other night about potential farmers taking on a farm if they won this competition. Each couple was given a plot of land and each week a couple gets voted off.
Are pigs noisy? (thinking of neighbours), also how would you make money? I know you sell them for the meat etc but where? I wouldn't know where to start... They are good for your land too aint they, they eat all the roots and weeds etc.
Someone said to me grow potatoes, just loads of them, buy some sacks and sell them. Sounds like allot of manual work for very little pay to me...
Are pigs noisy? (thinking of neighbours), also how would you make money? I know you sell them for the meat etc but where? I wouldn't know where to start... They are good for your land too aint they, they eat all the roots and weeds etc.
Someone said to me grow potatoes, just loads of them, buy some sacks and sell them. Sounds like allot of manual work for very little pay to me...
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Esk247
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- #67
i don't think this idea has legs.
the amount of effort required to look after pigs..or even potatoes..far outweighs the financial gain on such a small scale.
pigs are noisy, yes, they also need a vet from time to time although they are good at turning over soil and creating mud baths.
whatever floats your boat i s'pose.
the amount of effort required to look after pigs..or even potatoes..far outweighs the financial gain on such a small scale.
pigs are noisy, yes, they also need a vet from time to time although they are good at turning over soil and creating mud baths.
whatever floats your boat i s'pose.
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Somecamel
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- #71
By reading some of your post's I'm assuming the land faces south with no shading?
If So- Have you considered a small scale solar farm?
Very stable long term investment earning a couple of thousand pounds a year and free electricity.
PM me if you want some more information
Lee
If So- Have you considered a small scale solar farm?
Very stable long term investment earning a couple of thousand pounds a year and free electricity.
PM me if you want some more information
Lee
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businessopportunityseeker
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- #72
An allotment sounds like a good way to get the land used, make money and not build on it. It just depends on you. Do you want people working on your garden all the time? Why don't you build a storage place and fill it with books you sell on Amazon? I bet you can get a storage facility to pay for itself if you fill it with books. You can get masses of books for practically nothing and then sell them on amazon. Loads of Libraries are closing down at this time and it is a good way to protect the books which would otherwise be destroyed by short-sighted councils. It's not that much extra work. You might not be selling them all the time but they will all go in the end as long as you price them competatively.
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i have a similar sized bit of land going spare.......so i was quite interested to see what might be suggested
i'm getting chickens - my own to use for meat and the odd egg. But, you could easily give over a small space to get some black rocks in and sell the eggs, just do an honesty box at the end of the drive, the money you get will about pay for the feed and you'll get a free chicken and dozen eggs per week from it
the plot idea is quite good, but you'd have no end of old sods turning up - you'd need as much parking space as gardening space for them
I think you should look into a "doggie day care" business - NOT a kennel, but a place where owners can drop their dog on the way to work, you supervise them and let them run around all day (initially you'll get @rsehole dogs that are aggressive and need weeding out, but eventually you'll have 8-10 dogs that get on) just provide some shelter, food and a bit of exercise - let them chase the chickens!!!!
£10 a day per dog and you'll be laughing
growing your own veg is a none starter - it's afine hobby, but you won't make money out of it. But you could let a gardener have the land and as part of the deal he'll grow stuff for you - and the chickens provide manure too!! so you'll have a very small weekly shopping bill.
Pigs would work, but you would have to keep rotating them around the garden
you could erect wooden log cabins to be rented out as "holiday homes" (in reality, you'd have all year round tenants though, so you'd coin it in)
but you might want to think about laying in some ground source heat exchangers - you'll get free hot water/heating after your initial investment and that'll increase your house value and you'll be green.
one thing that would do well, at least in my area if i was closer to the town is a car wash. there is one a few miles away and from opening to closing there is a queue. they must be prnting money
i'm getting chickens - my own to use for meat and the odd egg. But, you could easily give over a small space to get some black rocks in and sell the eggs, just do an honesty box at the end of the drive, the money you get will about pay for the feed and you'll get a free chicken and dozen eggs per week from it
the plot idea is quite good, but you'd have no end of old sods turning up - you'd need as much parking space as gardening space for them
I think you should look into a "doggie day care" business - NOT a kennel, but a place where owners can drop their dog on the way to work, you supervise them and let them run around all day (initially you'll get @rsehole dogs that are aggressive and need weeding out, but eventually you'll have 8-10 dogs that get on) just provide some shelter, food and a bit of exercise - let them chase the chickens!!!!
£10 a day per dog and you'll be laughing
growing your own veg is a none starter - it's afine hobby, but you won't make money out of it. But you could let a gardener have the land and as part of the deal he'll grow stuff for you - and the chickens provide manure too!! so you'll have a very small weekly shopping bill.
Pigs would work, but you would have to keep rotating them around the garden
you could erect wooden log cabins to be rented out as "holiday homes" (in reality, you'd have all year round tenants though, so you'd coin it in)
but you might want to think about laying in some ground source heat exchangers - you'll get free hot water/heating after your initial investment and that'll increase your house value and you'll be green.
one thing that would do well, at least in my area if i was closer to the town is a car wash. there is one a few miles away and from opening to closing there is a queue. they must be prnting money
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JohnnyCash
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- #74
You're saying the veg garden is a non starter as its a hobby... but the idea above is going to cost him money so probably worse from a financial point of view.
Lets go with 10 dogs at £10 a day, £500 a week. Then you have a slight spread of when people pick up/drop off the dogs, lets say there are dogs there 10 hours per day. It'll be more, but giving benefit of the doubt in your favour for these sums...
£6 an hour for someone to watch them all, plus tax, plus NI. You can't have someone work 10 hours without a break, and you can't leave the dogs unattended either. So you're going to need a second person for part of the day. 12 hours paid x £6, £72 in wages. I'll ignore the Tax and NI as I don't know how to calculate it...
£1 a day per head for food and you're already up to £82.... then how much is insurance to watch a load of other peoples dogs? Then maintenance of the kennels and whatnot... you're going to lose your shirt.
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whoosh, and they are off..........
calm down. he said any ideas welcome, so this was an idea
i have a similar sized plot of land and I work from home - so i don't need any staff- he may or may not be in the same situation. he didn't say
but, also, go check how much dog walkers charge per day, you'll see there is lots of wiggle room in my "fag packet" suggestions to make it viable
and, can you explain why a dog can't be left on it's own for a few hours a day? it's not a child you are minding. they can amuse themselves without putting their fingers in an electric socket or drinking bleach
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JohnnyCash
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- #76
A dog can be left unsupervised, 8 peoples dogs can't be left on their own together...
Nobody is going to leave their dog unsupervised with random other dogs. No way i'd leave my dog somewhere like and just hope she wasn't going to get attacked by some random poorly trained one...
Nobody is going to leave their dog unsupervised with random other dogs. No way i'd leave my dog somewhere like and just hope she wasn't going to get attacked by some random poorly trained one...
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Morganian
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- #77
No brainer, use it as a small solar project.
One of a few ways you can do this, but timescales are limited as so many people have jumped on the concept that its going to be capped similarly to our European friends schemes.
If you have £380k to invest, install a half acre site (thats a fully inclusive cost, groundworks, panels, inveter systems, energy company compliance, H59 etc) and you will get a tax free return of between £45k and £55k per year, every year for 25 years, index linked and you will get FREE POWER for you also....worth £800 this year (on average), probably £1,000 in 3 years time and probably £2,000 in 8-10 years time (thats conservative increases - if it goes up by the rate it has done over the last 10 years, then monthly bills of £200 will be with us within 7 years)
If you have not got the capital to invest or do not wish to approach lender (which many solar farms do and easily get funding) then look at renting to a company which wishes to put the project in for you....they will pay a £8-10k per year rental for the area if it is suitable, and you would still benefit from free energy
See the green room thread about big scale big returns, but please ignore the ill informed idiots on that thread who simply sit with a bucket on their head, dribbling and saying "i dont geddit.....i dont geddit...." - just read the factual posts from those in the industry.
Good luck anyway.
One of a few ways you can do this, but timescales are limited as so many people have jumped on the concept that its going to be capped similarly to our European friends schemes.
If you have £380k to invest, install a half acre site (thats a fully inclusive cost, groundworks, panels, inveter systems, energy company compliance, H59 etc) and you will get a tax free return of between £45k and £55k per year, every year for 25 years, index linked and you will get FREE POWER for you also....worth £800 this year (on average), probably £1,000 in 3 years time and probably £2,000 in 8-10 years time (thats conservative increases - if it goes up by the rate it has done over the last 10 years, then monthly bills of £200 will be with us within 7 years)
If you have not got the capital to invest or do not wish to approach lender (which many solar farms do and easily get funding) then look at renting to a company which wishes to put the project in for you....they will pay a £8-10k per year rental for the area if it is suitable, and you would still benefit from free energy
See the green room thread about big scale big returns, but please ignore the ill informed idiots on that thread who simply sit with a bucket on their head, dribbling and saying "i dont geddit.....i dont geddit...." - just read the factual posts from those in the industry.
Good luck anyway.
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allotments around here go for between £20 -£40 per year. You've got to grow a lot of veg to get back any more money than that!
Water is not always provided, hense IBCs seen on most allotments.
However there is a huge demand for allotments, one of our local villages now has 2 sites, and there are always waiting lists.
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Jason_Fisher
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- #79
I actually love this idea! I have been looking into this for my roof, but i would like to look further into a solar farm. Is there anywhere i could find out more information? Which companies rent your land to do this? Where could i go for funding? Also would it be viable to get my neighbours involved? There is 5 large houses next to me who are quite wealthy and might be interested, could we do this together and all get the free energy, or is this not allowed?
I know nothing about this but would like to reasearch the idea. When do you think they will start to cap this?
Thanks
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Is that the minimum investment level, it sounds a great idea, but an awful lot of money to get the idea up and running.
Poppy xx
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