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  • #1
    Designing 4 U is a design company that listens to you and reacts to your needs.
    Since 2004 we have delivered bold, innovative solutions that build
    awareness for our customers and their customers too.

    We aim to create strong brands, which improve company performance and increase revenues.

    Why are we different?

    We can beat any competitor down on price
    We can develop better ideas
    We can fulfil any idea to the final stage
    simply,
    We can communicate what you want

    http://www.designing4u.co.uk
     
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    jasonj

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  • #5
    Not another company telling everyone how great they are but at the same time saying they will beat anyone on price! If your that good then don't focus on being cheap. Stuff that breaks the first time you use it is cheap, books nobody wants to read are cheap. Almost everyone has an experience of buying something cheap and being disappointed. Less focus on price more focus on benefits of your service i would say.
     
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    kyber

  • #6
    Just for a laugh, I took a look at the source code for their front page. No wonder the page is so slow. Talk about archaic and convoluted. Wow.

    I think they really need to improve their store before selling to others.

    They may be good graphic designers (although this is not obvious to me) but on the evidence of their own website, they are not even off the starter blocks in terms of web site development.

    Nice of them to post the advert though :)

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    kyber

  • #12
    Eagle said:
    stop using FONT to set the colours
    Click to expand...
    Any particular reason why?

    And don't say CSS: I haven't got the time!!! :wink: :p :wink:
    Click to expand...

    Ok, I won't say CSS. I saw the smilies. For other readers though, it takes longer to write and maintain code using old style markup like FONT tags than it does to use simple style settings. Use of FONT tags and the like also increases page sizes. Styles make it easier for the search engines to see the real value in your pages and simplifies matters for anyone needing accesibility assistance (large fonts, better contrast, screen readers, etc.).

    No doubt you will get around to it and do a better job than an automated tools do (not least because it becomes more obvious how much of the code is redundant and you can fix that quickly, you can use better style names, and avoid the use of span):
    Code: 
    <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">

<HTML>
  
  <HEAD>
    <TITLE>Logo Design - Logo Designer - Graphic Designer - Eagle Imagery</TITLE>
    <META NAME="Description" 
    CONTENT="Logo design and graphics.  Print design, graphic design for web and vector conversion.">
    <META NAME="Keywords" 
    CONTENT="graphic designer, logo design, company logo, logo, design, custom logo design, corporate logo, vector conversion, posters, flyers, brochures, digital, photo retouching">
    <META HTTP-EQUIV="imagetoolbar" CONTENT="no">
<style type="text/css">
<!--
body &#123; background-color&#58; Black; margin-left&#58; 10px; &#125;
table.c1 &#123; width&#58; 100%; &#125;
table.c12 &#123; width&#58; 732px; &#125;
table.c2, td.c5 &#123; width&#58; 730px; &#125;
table.c7 &#123; background-color&#58; #333333; width&#58; 732px; &#125;
td.c13 &#123; background-color&#58; Black; width&#58; 732px; &#125;
td.c3 &#123; width&#58; 146px; &#125;
td.c6 &#123; width&#58; 150px; &#125;
td.c8 &#123; width&#58; 244px; &#125;
.c10 &#123; color&#58; #FFC820; &#125;
.c11 &#123; color&#58; White; &#125;
.c14 &#123; color&#58; #333333; font-family&#58; verdana; font-size&#58; 64%; &#125;
.c15 &#123; color&#58; Silver; &#125;
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.c4 &#123; color&#58; #FFC820; font-family&#58; verdana; font-size&#58; 80%; &#125;
.c9 &#123; color&#58; Silver; font-family&#58; verdana; font-size&#58; 80%; &#125;
-->
</style>
</HEAD>
  
  <body>


    
    

    
    <table border="0" class="c1">
      <tr>
        <td align="center" valign="top">
        <table border="0" class="c2">
          <tr>
            <td colspan="5" align="center" class="c3">[url="http&#58;//www.eagleimagery.co.uk/"][img]textheaders/5EagleHeaderHome.jpg[/img][/url]</TD>
          </TR>
          <tr>
            <td colspan="5" align="left" class="c3"><span class="c4">Home</span></TD>
          </TR>
          <tr>
            <td align="center" colspan="5" class="c5">[url="http&#58;//www.eagleimagery.co.uk/"][img]textheaders/2home.gif[/img][/url][url="logo.asp"][img]textheaders/2logos.gif[/img][/url][url="0ther.asp"][img]textheaders/2othrsvcs.gif[/img][/url][url="ph0t52.asp"][img]textheaders/2phot.gif[/img][/url][url="print.asp"][img]textheaders/2print.gif[/img][/url]</TD>
          </TR>
          <tr>
            <td align="center" colspan="5" class="c5">[url="testimonials.asp"][img]textheaders/2testim.gif[/img][/url][url="logodesignfaq.asp"][img]textheaders/2faq.gif[/img][/url][img]textheaders/2blnklow.gif[/img][url="misc.asp"][img]textheaders/2links.gif[/img][/url][url="c0nt4ct.asp"][img]textheaders/2infocon.gif[/img][/url]</TD>
          </TR>
          <tr>
            <td align="center" class="c3"></TD>
            <td align="left" class="c3"></TD>
            <td align="center" class="c3"></TD>
            <td align="center" class="c3"></TD>
            <td align="center" class="c6"></TD>
          </TR>
        </TABLE>
        <table border="0" cellpadding="12" class="c7">
          <tr>
            <td valign="top" align="left" class="c8"><span class="c4">Introduction</span>

             

            <span class="c9">Eagle Imagery
            specialises in exclusive and original logo design for the discerning
            client

             

             Your logo is a graphic representation of your company name,
            trademark or brand. A unique, recognisable identity or 'corporate
            logo' has become an essential part of business strategy and success
            so it's vital that proper consideration be given to this aspect.
            Eagle Imagery will make you stand out from your competitors with a
            unique and eye-catching design</span>

             

            <span class="c4">International
            Clientele</span>

             

            <span class="c9">Although based in
            the UK, recent design projects have been located in the United
            States, Norway, Germany, Australia, India and Singapore. Enquiries
            are welcome from anywhere</span>

             

            </TD>
            <td valign="top" class="c8"><span class="c4">Services
            at a glance</span>

             

            <span class="c9"><span class="c10">•</span>
            Logo Design for print and web

            <span class="c10">•</span> Vector Conversion

            <span class="c10">•</span> Stationery Design

            <span class="c10">•</span> Stationery Printing

            <span class="c10">•</span> Posters/Flyers and Brochures

            <span class="c10">•</span> Banner design

            <span class="c10">•</span> Adobe PDF Documents

            <span class="c10">•</span> In-game Graphics

            <span class="c10">•</span> Web-based advertising

            <span class="c10">•</span> Digital Photo Retouching

            <span class="c10">•</span> Media Cover Artwork

            <span class="c11"><A HREF="0ther.asp"><span class="c11">and
              more...</span></A></span></span>

             

            <span class="c4">Working Practice</span>

             

            <span class="c9">A friendly but
            industrious relationship with all clients. We work through the
            design process together via email accompanied by regular updates for
            review and critique. See [url="testimonials.asp"]<span class="c11">'testimonials'</span>[/url]</span></TD>
            <td valign="top" class="c8"><span class="c4">Contact</span>

             

            [url="mailto&#58;[email protected]"][img]textheaders/ema1l.gif[/img][/url]

             

            <span class="c4">News / Announcements</span><span class="c9">

             

            <span class="c10">•</span> Congratulations on Britain's
            successful bid on the 2012 Olympic Games! Eagle Imagery is in a
            favourable position to work on design projects for business ventures
            in connection with the Olympics

             

            <span class="c10">•</span> Several logos by Eagle Imagery
            selected by international judging panel for 'LogoLounge 2'.
            Published by [url="http&#58;//www.rockpub.com"]<span class="c11">Rockport</span>[/url]

             

             In <span class="c11"><U>[url="http&#58;//www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1592531121"]<span class="c11">bookshops</span>[/url]</U></span>
            now...

             

            [url="http&#58;//www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1592531121"][img]miscimgs/ll2.jpg[/img][/url]</span></TD>
          </TR>
        </TABLE>
        <table border="0" cellpadding="20" class="c12">
          <tr>
            <td align="center" colspan="3" class="c13"><span class="c14">[url="http&#58;//www.eagleimagery.co.uk/"]<span class="c15">home</span>[/url]
            • [url="c0nt4ct.asp"]<span class="c15">info/contact</span>[/url]
            • [url="logo.asp"]<span class="c15">logos</span>[/url] •
            [url="0ther.asp"]<span class="c15">other services</span>[/url]
            • [url="ph0t52.asp"]<span class="c15">photography</span>[/url]
            • [url="testimonials.asp"]<span class="c15">testimonials</span>[/url]
            • [url="print.asp"]<span class="c15">print orders</span>[/url]•
            [url="misc.asp"]<span class="c15">links</span>[/url]</span>

             

            <span class="c16">All content
            copyright Eagle Imagery™ 1998-2005 unless otherwise stated</span></TD>
          </TR>
        </TABLE></TD>
      </TR>
    </TABLE>82510
  </BODY>
</HTML>

    Stuart
     
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    kyber

  • #14
    My old post on building a web site has some useful links that will get you started on the background to this and then a search for Introduction to CSS on Google will list many useful sites.

    Personally, I find it a lot easier to understand and use than old style markup. Much more suited to designers as well even though the control (or rather the quality of browser support) is not all it could be at present.

    There are some very good books out there. I forgot the ones I read to get started - I am working in Ireland at the moment building 400Gb analytical cubes - but will have a look when I have a chance. [Yup, sent me a reminder.]

    If you are using Dreamweaver (and possibly even if not) I very strongly recommend the Foundations ebook from Project Seven as a very pragmatic way of getting into using and abusing css whilst getting on with things.

    Stuart
     
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    Cornish Steve

    Cornish Steve

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  • #17
    Chris,

    Thanks for posting your message on this board. From my short time spent frequenting this place, I've learned that there are a lot of web designers present - so don't be surprised at all the feedback. Don't be discouraged either, because you'll see from other threads that everyone is willing to offer advice and to provide help.

    I did want to point out one error in the content of your home page - it will be simple to correct. The quote should read:

    "Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go." T.S.Eliot (with only one L)

    Good luck with your venture.
     
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    Cornish Steve

    Cornish Steve

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    Jul 4, 2005
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    Atlanta, Georgia, USA (formerly Cornwall, UK)
  • #18
    jasonj said:
    Not another company telling everyone how great they are but at the same time saying they will beat anyone on price!
    Click to expand...

    While it is usually the case that a company must either differentiate or compete on price (one of Porter's laws as I remember), it is not universally true. Some companies are able to offer both greater value and a lower price. If you don't believe me, spend some time reading "Blue Ocean Strategy" by Kim & Mauborgne. I recommend it; it's a great book.
     
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