Some post-Brexit sense

[DontAsk]

For anyone producing goods for export to the EU https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1797308/UK-retains-EU-safety-mark-Brexit

 

[IanSuth]

For anyone producing goods for export to the EU https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1797308/UK-retains-EU-safety-mark-Brexit

If we had just said on day1
"Look, we are leaving but we guarantee for a minimum period of x years none of our regs or standards will fall below the EU ones" then we would have had a free trade deal signed immediately

It was only the super hard core "we can't have anything EU derived out of principle" that stopped that and meant we wanted to change things for changes sake which has caused the vast majority of the issues.

If you ask anyone of the the "cut up the red tape brigade" to name a standard they want to downgrade it is never one in the area they have knowledge in, it is always something in some other area they perceive we are being held back in (until an expert from that industry chimes in and gives the reasons for the standard)

 

[thetiger2015]

The 'Bonfire of EU red tape' is beginning to look like a wisp of smoke...if that.

Then there's Rishi today, inadvertently admitting that it costs a lot of money to ship things from the other side of the world and it turns out, not very environmentally friendly either. Shocker.

 

[IanSuth]

Maybe if they employed trade ministers who traded in things it might help

Current guy, Oxford PPE, MBA, Andersons, Deloittes and head of travel for Google - how on earth does that qualify him to manage Trade - I am better qualified and I'd be S***

 

[KM-Tiger]

Maybe if they employed trade ministers who traded in things it might help

It's going to take a while.

What we did not take into account back in 2016 was whether we had a govt and civil service that were up to the task of governing without the EU. In large parts it would appear not.

 

[Newchodge]

It's going to take a while.

What we did not take into account back in 2016 was whether we had a govt and civil service that were up to the task of governing without the EU. In large parts it would appear not.

Or. perhaps it was not possible to govern effectively in the modern world having amputated a large part of our normal relationships?

 

[MBE2017]

Or. perhaps it was not possible to govern effectively in the modern world having amputated a large part of our normal relationships?

Don’t worry, with the de industrialisation of Germany well underway, soon the EU will collapse. Then some sense will prevail. The EU will be looking to expand the Ukraine war soon, probably using Poland, unfettered immigration, the EU GDP only having risen by 8% since 2008 in real terms, there are massive problems heading their way.

The UK will not be immune from the problems and I take no heart from seeing proud Nations looking into a bleak future. Best to concentrate on ourselves and learn to have faith in our own abilities.

 

[thetiger2015]

Don’t worry, with the de industrialisation of Germany well underway, soon the EU will collapse. Then some sense will prevail. The EU will be looking to expand the Ukraine war soon, probably using Poland, unfettered immigration, the EU GDP only having risen by 8% since 2008 in real terms, there are massive problems heading their way.

The UK will not be immune from the problems and I take no heart from seeing proud Nations looking into a bleak future. Best to concentrate on ourselves and learn to have faith in our own abilities.

The EU is not a military organisation. You're confusing it with NATO and the expansion of that organisation, egged on by the US which knows it will struggle to fight on more than one front.

Faith in our own abilities? You do know we have traded with the world for hundreds of years, both inside and outside of the EU? The UK was always free to trade with any other country but it made sense to have bulk agreements with fellow EU countries for products and raw materials. Now, the UK pays more for lots of raw materials, because we are outside of the EU. It's very simple.

 

[thetiger2015]

Also, to wish the demise of the EU structure is a very Russian wish. How odd, for Brexiteers to wish for something with so much passion, knowing, surely, that destabilising the European countries would be of great benefit to Putin?

Brexiteers are odd folk. They contradict themselves constantly. I'm surprised they manage to get out of the house, they must be spinning in circles all morning.

 

[GraemeL]

From a positive opening post about the future, as usual we again go into moaning.

 

[IanSuth]

From a positive opening post about the future, as usual we again go into moaning.

Saying "Hoorah, we have seen sense and are going to keep doing something we did" is hardly a massive positive is it - more a triumph of sense and reality