How to win the lottery

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    To guarantee winning the National Lottery you need to buy every combination 13,983,816

    So first I need 13,983,816 volunteers - I give them each a number and they buy their own ticket – the deal is if they win the jackpot they agree to give me half the winnings and they also agree to tell people I predicted their win. (my future marketing).

    I just need the volunteers ?
     

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    First problem is there is 45 million combos not 14 million ?
    You might want to check that 49/6 x 48/5 x 47/4 x 46/3 x 45/2 x 44/1 = 13,983,816
     
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    On Lotto, the numbers run from 1-59.
    So it is, it changed from 1-49 to 1-59 in 2015 I stand corrected! Looks like I need another 31,073,658 volunteers then
     
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    Is it against the rules to buy more than X amount? You could easily automate the ticket purchasing via the online platform.

    You could literally win every week and still be in profit.


    Edit: just saw the other posts. 45 million combos. I guess only the roll overs are worth it? I don't play so I've no idea what the usual jackpot is.
     
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    We ran the numbers on this years ago, when it was 49 balls with c.14million permutations of numbers.
    Findings:
    1. you would be guaranteed to win the jackpot and additional prizes (for three numbers etc) every week
    2. the big variable is that if there is also another winner (or more) in any one week, the value of winnings from one share of the jackpot plus the other prizes could be less than the cost of the tickets
    3. to mitigate this, you would need to buy tickets in (rollover) weeks when the jackpot was expected to be >GBP20m or something.
    4. to actually do so, it would make sense to buy a chain of newsagents with lottery terminals as the commission paid to the operator of the terminal (5% IIRC) makes a significant difference.
    Yes, I had too much spare time for a while! :)
     
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    HFE Signs

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    Is it against the rules to buy more than X amount? You could easily automate the ticket purchasing via the online platform.

    You could literally win every week and still be in profit.


    Edit: just saw the other posts. 45 million combos. I guess only the roll overs are worth it? I don't play so I've no idea what the usual jackpot is.
    Daz, The theory isn't to buy them all as a single buyer though, and the jackpot wouldn't need to cover the purchase of all tickets
     
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    Have you worked out how long it will take you to write out 45 million different numbers and send out to 45 million people?
    ? I was hoping one of you clever IT people would help automate it with me!
     
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    You're beginning to sound like that memberssite guy
    Full of ideas, want someone else to do all the work for you - I'm out
    ? don’t take it too seriously
     
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    MikeJ

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    When the lottery was first up and running, and there was a double or triple roll over, there was talk of someone trying to put together a syndicate to buy every option, and hope they had the only winning ticket. Part of the plan was to leave out anything considered "unlikely to come up", such as 1,2,3,4,5 and 6. I had to explain to people that there was as much chance of those numbers turning up as any other and therefore you could drop any combination if you wanted to.
     
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    Lucan Unlordly

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    Your better off playing online Bingo or doing Scratchcard's:p

    Paid a tenner for two online attempts at winning a million, won a fiver, turned that into a £20 win, used a tenner and won £50, spent £20 - went to bed with £30..........£20 up. I'll use that in a week or so's time and be wiped out, but have a bit of enjoyment on the way.o_O
     
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    simon field

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    I did this (match betting?) thing with my stepbrother a while back. Not sure if it was strictly legal but hey-ho.

    I opened a bank account, gave him the debit card & details. I think he bought a cheap laptop and sim. He bet on stuff, and I got £160-£200 a month for the first 6 months or so. It then gradually fizzled out to £30-£40 and is now finished, but it must’ve paid me out @ £3k over the period! It was something to do with the promotional offers/free bets from the bookies.

    He probably had 30 to 40 customers like me, so must’ve been creaming off the top.

    It felt like we beat the bookies!
     
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    All lotteries are tax on the stupid.
    One reason the Church hates lotteries is because they give people hope - no matter how small. If you've got a shitty life, in a shitty job, in a shitty house, in a shitty neighbourhood, then your £1 ticket might, just might, get you out. Of course, you know it won't happen, but you can take comfort in your dream.

    Hope used to be the Church's message - and the basis of their power and control. Before the lotteries, the Church told you to be a good boy or girl, follow their instructions and your reward would come later - after the mortal coil had been shuffled off. So who's your money on ? Camelot or the Archbishop ?
     
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    One reason the Church hates lotteries is because they give people hope - no matter how small. If you've got a shitty life, in a shitty job, in a shitty house, in a shitty neighbourhood, then your £1 ticket might, just might, get you out. Of course, you know it won't happen, but you can take comfort in your dream.

    Hope used to be the Church's message - and the basis of their power and control. Before the lotteries, the Church told you to be a good boy or girl, follow their instructions and your reward would come later - after the mortal coil had been shuffled off. So who's your money on ? Camelot or the Archbishop ?
    Reminds me of my mother. She spent her adult life expecting to win the pools, and she knew that when (not if) she did, everything would be OK.
     
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    Onthebrightside

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    Reminds me of my mother. She spent her adult life expecting to win the pools, and she knew that when (not if) she did, everything would be OK.
    Goodness me, I had forgotten the Pools. My Mum had that theory too. Just once she actually won some money but it came out of the 'Spot the Ball' competition that used to be delivered by the same guy that did The Pools. It wasn't a lot... she bought herself a really larger cooker and new saucepans (the woman knew how to live it up eh) ?.
     
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