Help required - I need to backup but don't know how

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Caira admin

I hope you can help me.

I've just started a new job as office manager and in my role am in charge of our IT suppliers - this is a new area for me to deal with.

I keep hearing about backing up and what happens to a small business if you don't do it. I thought I should investigate further - can anyone recommend a solution that does not cost the earth and is easy to use?

Thankyou
 
Caira,

I have found the online solutions to be easy and cheap for small businesses. You can set the backup to run automatically and you dont have to worry about taking the disks off the premises etc like you do with traditional backups.

All the big banks seem to have systems now (all using the same software it looks like!) Expect to pay around £15 pm plus VAT.

But find some options by searching on the internet, and if you are unsure and want a telephone helpline, make sure you sign up with someone who offers this.

Also what happened before you were there? Is there a system in place that you don't know about? Might be worth finding out!

And watch this forum because I expect Richard and Gary to add more helpful advice for you :)

Julia

www.startupright.co.uk
 
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The Chamber of Commerce has recently published a study on the subject of disaster recovery and business continuity planning which reveals some startling information. 90% of businesses that lose their data will fail within two years, and 43% of businesses that suffer a disaster will fail immediately. Only 17% of SME's in the survey had a contingency or security plan in place, but the majority of these businesses had not tested the plan.

With statistics as frightening as these why don't businesses take proper precautions to protect themselves?

The answer is because, unlike responding to a customer complaint or fixing the photocopier when it breaks, there is no compelling event for us to set up a disaster recovery plan. Human nature dictates that if there is a problem then we will fix it, but if the problem has never happened to us, do we really need to worry about it?

A colleague recently told me a story about a company that did have a disaster recovery plan and then one fateful day they experienced a fire. Fortunately nobody was hurt in the fire and the company immediately activated its disaster recovery plan. The plan stated that the person who had been trained to carry out the plan was Fred … but unfortunately Fred had been dead for 3 years.

All companies need to prepare a recovery plan to cover disasters such as IT and utility failures, fraud, sabotage, theft, extreme flooding, fire, and terrorist attacks. To achieve this you need to analyse key business applications. Identify which applications are critical to the business and which applications could be put on hold for a period of time without causing long term damage.

You should also Identify an alternate temporary business site to locate personnel well away from the main building and also ensure that it is not served by the same utility companies, or communication company as the main building.

The Chamber of Commerce recommends that contingency plans will need to be carefully communicated to employees without creating undue alarm and explained as part of key business planning. They also recommend that regularly updated copies of the plan are available to all employees.

What would be the impact of a large scale disaster on the economy today?

To understand the impact of a large scale disaster on the economy we can learn some lessons from effects of the IRA bombing of Manchester in 1996. This event affected over 670 businesses and £5m of business was lost in the first few hours. Communications were not restored for 48 hours and certain areas were inaccessible for up to 5 days.

Since the Manchester bombing occurred businesses are now even more reliant on IT and electronically stored data. What would be the effect on the economy if a similar event happened today?

Speaking about the potential cost of an incident occurring today Michael Foot, Managing Director of the Financial Services Authority, said "Essentially, that day, billions and billions - probably trillions - of dollars, pounds and euros wouldn't flow to their correct home. As the day went on, you could get an enormous economic jolt through to real trade and investment markets. Stock markets and so on would be very badly affected when they came back on again. Liquidity they thought they had would not be there. Over time, what you would get would be international firms looking at New York, Tokyo, London; they would assess which one had failed to deliver and they would cut back investment there, leading to cuts in employment, and they would take their business to places that had proved to be resilient."

Perhaps it is not possible to properly measure the effects of this type of incident, and whilst it may, after a period of time, be possible to quantify the value of lost business, can we really quantify the wider economic and social damage?

How should businesses protect themselves?

Remember that a disaster does not have to be 'dramatic' in order to have a significant impact on your business. For example, what would happen to your business if there was a gas leak outside your office, and you were not allowed access to your premises? Under these circumstances could you continue to serve your customers?

In the event of a disaster occurring you need to ensure that your data is secure and you have an up to date disaster recovery plan. But most of all you need to ensure that Fred is alive and well and is able to carry out the plan.
 
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There are a couple of ways to make backups of your files.

1. You could mount a second HD to your server(s) and set up rsync (cron job) to run this as often as you need. This is the method we use. Some examples can be found here: http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/examples.html (You will need to format and mount the HD first)

2. You can obtain some space (shared or dedicated) offsite and FTP your backup there. Again, running a daily cron to execute the backup is the best way.

3. You could backup to CD if/ when you need to. (This is proberly a less effective solution)

Tony
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    Hi Caira,
    It seems Tony is using a Linux server like me :). The only problem with that is Linux as a server platform is brilliant and in my humble opinion better than Windows, but much more complicated to administor hence beyond practical use for most people.

    So, I think the simplest solution is the remote backup solutions offered by many people via an ADSL line. The only problem is this because impracticle when you have gigabytes of data which even at ADSL speeds takes days to upload.
    The most recent solution I hve installed at a clients premises is a robotic tape changer, but this can be expensive and you do need to store tapes either in a fire proof safe or offsite.

    Best route....
    Go down the remote ADSL backup option until you have lots of data then look at tape streamers, ideally with robotic auto changer.

    Hope this helps,
    Richard
     
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    Last year we had some issues with our existing backups - they were too complicated and the member of staff monitoring it (also an office manager who was not particularly tech savy) left.

    We spent lots of time looking for products that didn't require a dedicated IT manager.

    In my experience backup is necessary although it is difficult to find a solution that is easy to use and meets all your needs.
     
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    C

    Caira admin

    Hi all

    Thankyou for your feedback / suggestions

    I am backing up desktop PC's, a couple of laptops a Windows Server and an Exchange Server.

    Pat - what did you decide to use... did you go with an online backup solution or did you find some appropriate software?

    Caira
     
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    If you do not have a lot of experience with this kind of thing then it might well be best to ask your main IT supplier for help as setting up a decent backup regime can be a bit more complicated than it looks at first sight.

    The most important part of backup is recovery. It is amazing how many small business put lots of effort into backup but find that they can not recover files in a useful way.

    It is also important to understand the difference between backup and archive and that you should avoid doing the former for the latter. Backups are generally "snap shots" of the data and systems. An archive is a well protected, formally documented, "permanent" copy of key information relating to a particular period/project/etc. Backups are generally temporary beasts using recycled media (e.g. magnetic tapes that you cycle through until you think they have been used for too many times).

    There are also multiple types of things to backup, for example:

    -business systems data (e.g. financial database)
    -pc configurations
    -local user data
    -network user data
    -email

    The same approach may not work for all.

    If you have as small office network with a file server, try to avoid everyone storing files on their local computers as it is trickier to backup individual machines on a regular basis (not least because they all have to be left on at night) - that is unless you use certain types of remote backup service.

    The standard answer is a tape drive (dlt these days) and a backup package such as ArcServer. Such packages are not the easiest to configure.

    If you have very good internet access, then getting backups done remotely is well worth looking at. I set up an office a few years ago with around 100 people and we had NO file or mail servers on site. An Exchange service was provide by a third party and we used the server from Outlook clients in the usual way (but also with Web browsers when away from the office). Backups were done on an incremental delta basis in the background anytime you were connected to the internet and backed up the complete machines (so you could restore a complete working image to a replacement). Printers were networked and acted as their own print server on an IP network. Solution let us work from pretty much anywhere and meant we needed virtually no onsite IT capability. (If you want to know more about this approach, let me know and I shall dig out some contacts for you.)

    Stuart
     
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    Caira admin said:
    I hope you can help me.

    I've just started a new job as office manager and in my role am in charge of our IT suppliers - this is a new area for me to deal with.

    I keep hearing about backing up and what happens to a small business if you don't do it. I thought I should investigate further - can anyone recommend a solution that does not cost the earth and is easy to use?

    Thankyou

    Hi Caira

    How much data do you have to be backed up?
    Feel free to email me and I will put together the different options that you could take - depends on how much data you have, what you have to spend to get it up and running etc
    Email is [email protected] or my MSN is in my signature
     
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    Hello again

    We looked at Backup Exec but found that we had to carry out a full backup every time and never got round to all the PCs in our backup window. We then looked at Retrospect, the way it works means that it takes less time to do the backup... something to do with only updating new or altered files - and it met our budget.

    Hope this helps

    Pat
     
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    Anyone looking for a secure online backup solution should click the link at the top of this page.

    The one which says, "Backup Your PC".

    This solution will not require an IT consultant to install, and once set up it will backup your computers automatically every day for you.

    Regards,

    Anthony
     
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    Hi Stuart,

    In answer to your question: Both

    I am the marketing director of Depositit. As such, I use the service myself (so have personal experience) and am also therefore affiliated with them too.

    I understand that my views are probably not deemed as 'impartial', and can accept this. As they say though, "the proof of the pudding is in the eating". If you are seeking a secure, easy to use, cost effective online backup solution - look around and compare services, then come back with any questions. I'm always happy to talk and if the solution is for you, give it a try...

    Finally - I did not place the ad up the top. I came across it by chance. So am really pleased to see this forum promoting Data Backup, and even more so that they've selected our solution.
     
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