Finding a Good Hosting Company...

I have gained some good knowledge over my limited time here so I thought I would share what i know about the hosting business with you all, maybe a mod/admin could make it sticky?

Server Location

This can be very important depending on your domain name - if you own a "generic" name (.com or .net for example) and you want to appear in a "UK Only" search in the search engines then you are going to need a UK based server. If a search engine cannot determine your location from your domain name (.co.uk for example) then it will look-up the IP address of the server and use that. I have heard that it IS possible to get around this but I haven't seen any conclusive evidence of this and it would surely take a lot of hard work (link building etc). If you own a country specific TLD (.co.uk for example) then US based hosting will be fine.

UNLIMTED bandwidth hosts...

There is NO SUCH THING. The host can claim to own the datacenter but even then - they DO NOT own the connections from it to the Internet, so they cannot offer "unlimited" anything...
Bandwidth needs paying for by somebody - so how do these host's operate? There are 2 ways of selling "unlimited bandwidth"

1> They basically gamble that you do not use huge amounts of bandwidth, it's easy to tell someone using under 1Gb/Month that they have "unlimited" bandwidth isn't it?
2>They cap the bandwidth speed - so that it is physically impossible to go over a certain amount of bandwidth per month - even if the server is maxed out 24/7!

Cheap hosts...

There was a "boom" a few years ago... where the cheapest guy won, but the industry has changed (thankfully). Cheap is now regarded as something to be avoided - simply because the only way to offer "cheap" hosting is to over-fill a server with websites.
A cheap host will either:

1>Make little or no profit on their services - this is obviously bad as the host will soon be history...

2>Oversell their plans / overload the servers. This works because the host is again gambling on you not using your maximum resources. Lets use this example... The host set's up a server with 1200Gb/Month of bandwidth - they will then create a hosting "plan" that offers 20Gb/Month of bandwidth... using basic maths they can only setup 60 of these accounts before all the bandwidth is allocated to clients, but the host will gamble that the majority of clients will never use their 20Gb and actually sell 100 of these accounts! (YES they are selling the same bandwidth twice in effect). Some people say this is okay - aslong as the bandwidth doesn't run out... I am one of those that DOES NOT agree with this.

Domain Names...

A lot of hosting companies offer FREE domain names - but who actually owns the name? YOU or the hosting company? You may want to check this out before signing up - if you want to move later then it could be difficult / expensive.

Professional Company...

Do not hesitate to contact the company first to see what they are like to "talk" to - some hosting companies are run by "kids" (hard to believe but true). The problem with these kids is that apart from the fact that they are "out of the office" during school time - if you find yourself hosted by a US kid and they run off with your money or loose important data then you are screwed... Under US law, a minor cannot enter into contracts so you cannot sue if the kid breaches your hosting contract!
Beware of hosting companies who's websites look like templatemonster websites or who have silly spelling mistakes on their site. A pro host will take the time to ensure that they have their own site correct and will also be a registered company.
The company should also be able to provide you with references of people already hosted with them - use these refernces to find out average support times etc.

Ability to grow...

Can your hosting company supply the demands of your business as you grow - I have seen some eCommerce websites use more than 10 times their normal bandwidth during the run up to chistmas!

JUST REMEMBER THE GOLDEN RULE: If it looks too good to be true - it probably is! :roll:
 
Hi,

That was excellent, you have just answered many questions I had in my head. Keep posting for us novices :D You should have your own section for beginners like me.

Affilates next please, read loads and still don't get it :lol:

Jayne
 
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SuffolkDesigns

couldn't have said it better myself :)

I really don't know why some companies choose £1 - 2 per month hosts, web hosting is a tax deducatable expense. is there really such a difernce between £2 and £7 per month ? If they want reliable servers, mail working all the time etc then people should realise that £2 per month is not going to get you that.

We have stayed away from competing with budget hosts and instead compete on quality with "no overselling" guaranteed. Over the last 12 month we have lost very few clients and gained lots that have realised cheap hosting is exactly that.......
 
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always check they have a *real* address listed on the website - its the law in the UK yet many hosts/registration companies still dont do it

its worth doing a traceroute (start, programs, accessories, command prompt, type "tracert xxxxx.co.uk <return>") to their website to see where its hosted and how "far" way (how many hops)

ask how long they've been in business - there are some excellant new companies out there, but *most* fail within the first year.

what forms of payment do they accept - if its cash through the post/paypal only, then be aware it's probably some 13yr old running it from home

overall pick a host that can provide the services you require at a price you're willing to pay - and be realistic about your expectations - do you really need 100Gb of diskspace and 10Tb of data-transfer for your 25 page website ?
 
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All,

There are different types of hosting:
- website
- server

Tony talks about the hosting of websites and that is why he talks about there being no such thing as unlimited bandwidth - this looks at the data transfer on a monthly basis.

If you want to find out more about server hosting, also known as colocation, where you pay for 10Mbps and can use this to capacity every second of every day; check out BIS. Server colocation starts at half a cabinet (22U capacity usable). There is also useful information here.

http://www.bis-internet.co.uk
 
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astutiumRob

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BIS said:
There are different types of hosting:
- website
- server

Tony talks about the hosting of websites and that is why he talks about there being no such thing as unlimited bandwidth - this looks at the data transfer on a monthly basis.
Irrespective of whether you are discussing website hosting on a server, or server collocation, or as per your advert, rackspace with transit, there is still no such thing as *unlimited* bandwidth.
 
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having a 10Mbps is limiting the amount out of data that can be transferred.

There is however a difference between "unlimited" and "unmetered" where unlimited is impossible and unmetered simply means you can use as much as the equipment can provide you.

Companies that claim either are normally massively overselling their services.
 
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If you want to find out more about server hosting, also known as colocation, where you pay for 10Mbps and can use this to capacity every second of every day;

This is definately NOT unlimited anything, as posted above - this limit is not directly on the amount you can transfer per month (ie a capped limit) but by the simple laws of physics - if you are limited by speed, then you are limited by the amount of data transferable.

My original post was not aimed at unmetered offers but at those companies that advertise "unlimted"... Everything has a limit.
 
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