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Bex6486
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We run a PT business with 2 PT studios. Both are in former retail units that we were granted change of use for.
We have occupied one of the studios since July 2003 - we have never had a lease there but had a 3 year 'Management Services Agreement' or licence which states that we would pay a licence fee for the 'non exclusive use of the premises' and the owner would pay us a management fee. In reality this meant us paying him rent minus the 'management fee'. The owner has never had any connection with our business and it's worth noting that we have always had exclusive use. It is also worth noting that he is a Lawyer....
The licence arrangement states that : neither the payment of or any demand for Fees nor the fact that the amount of the Fees is calculated by reference to a period shall create or cause this Agreement to become a tenancy'.
However throughout the document referral is made to 'Landlord' and 'Tenant'.
In Declarations at the end of the document it states:
'This Agreement does not include any rights over any other property except any rights expressly granted by this Agreement. Section 62 of the Law of Property Act 1925 is excluded'.
'The manager does not acquire any security of tenure under the Landlord and Tenant Act 1954 Part II.'
This licence expired in July 2006. We are still operating from the premises.
We are trying to find out what our legal position is... does no tenancy agreement mean no security of tenure despite the fact that we have been in the same premises for 15 and a half years? The owner wants to increase the rent (beyond market value) and we have objected. He is now saying we have to pay what he demands or leave (and his wife will take over the property to run her business...) - any help or suggestions would be very gratefully received...
We have occupied one of the studios since July 2003 - we have never had a lease there but had a 3 year 'Management Services Agreement' or licence which states that we would pay a licence fee for the 'non exclusive use of the premises' and the owner would pay us a management fee. In reality this meant us paying him rent minus the 'management fee'. The owner has never had any connection with our business and it's worth noting that we have always had exclusive use. It is also worth noting that he is a Lawyer....
The licence arrangement states that : neither the payment of or any demand for Fees nor the fact that the amount of the Fees is calculated by reference to a period shall create or cause this Agreement to become a tenancy'.
However throughout the document referral is made to 'Landlord' and 'Tenant'.
In Declarations at the end of the document it states:
'This Agreement does not include any rights over any other property except any rights expressly granted by this Agreement. Section 62 of the Law of Property Act 1925 is excluded'.
'The manager does not acquire any security of tenure under the Landlord and Tenant Act 1954 Part II.'
This licence expired in July 2006. We are still operating from the premises.
We are trying to find out what our legal position is... does no tenancy agreement mean no security of tenure despite the fact that we have been in the same premises for 15 and a half years? The owner wants to increase the rent (beyond market value) and we have objected. He is now saying we have to pay what he demands or leave (and his wife will take over the property to run her business...) - any help or suggestions would be very gratefully received...
