My new designed Ice Cream Trike

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  • #1
    Hello,

    I would be very happy if you can let me know what you think of my new Ice cream design.

    I have 13 pictures so feel free to have a comment and let me know where i can get a pitch:)


    This will be attached to a Dutch work bike and will be seen in a street near you soon i hope:)

    Cheers
     
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  • #4
    FirstAidTraining said:
    It looks fantastic and I love the wood. How will it attach to the bike and, what comes to mind is, will it not weigh a ton, even empty, never mind loaded?
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    Hello,

    Thanks for that,

    Yes it is solid oak and it is quite heavy, it will be just under 200kg fully loaded.

    I am using a Dutch work bike http://www.workcycles.com/home-prod...kes/workcycles-classic-dutch-bakfiets-size-xl

    It can hold up to 300-400kg.

    I believe it is quite unique and i hope this will be a good selling point for the sea side resorts etc.

    I am almost done with a second one that is on top of a norwegian Monark 3 wheeler moped, it looks awsome i think and that will be with a motor and road legal:)

    Cheers
     
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  • #6
    SeaTheStars said:
    Fantastic, you have a gift!

    They would go nice in an old Italian Cafe around the suburbs of Milan.
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    Hello,

    Thanks for your comment, i am glad other people like the look of the product, i agree that it would look great in Italy, ahhh i can only imagine.

    Unfortunately in England i seem to have a issue with Council's not wanting to allow trading on their property, i guess the Help SME really need is beeing blocked by to much red tape and regulations.

    I hope to have the second unit completed next week and then i will take both units to Leeds Castle in Kent for a Photo shoot, i will be sure to post the images online, but i am doing this to create a presentation pack as i will be looking for a small amount of funding to continue building other units for sale.

    Cheers anyway.

    Regards

    Tor Johansson
     
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    You certainly have a talent for woodwork but i think 200kg is very heavy for riding around.

    If you want to get into town centres etc just go on private land. A fella comes to my town in the summer with his trike and sets up on the church which is in the centre of the town. He donates a little money to the church and gets a great pitch on private land where the council cant touch him.

    He uses these. http://www.businessonbikes.co.uk/
     
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    Looking at the cost of the bikes, altogether how much are you looking at selling the units for?

    I'm asking because as stated above, the bikes alone are expensive, once you've put cost of materials with a margin and labour on top would this product be "too expensive" for it's work?

    However I do know of a place where you could get an electric scooter for roughly £600 brand new, would this be more cost effective? and perhaps more appealing due to the weight?

    I'm assuming you've already looked into all of this, and I'd love to see those in Manchester!

    With regards to weight, I wouldn't say it was overly heavy, however with regards to locations you'd be a bit stuffed I think... What I mean is, someone from Manchester could buy one, but someone from somewhere like... Scarborough would be put off by the idea because of the amount of hills... I mean, just under 200kg for a fully loaded unit with say someone who is at 95kg wouldn't be too bad, momentum would get them going if anything. :D

    Have you thought about making the unit out of something more light-weight but with the same durability?

    Obviously I know nothing about wood, other than it comes from tree's ;) ... but there must be something else out there that could/would give the same effect?
     
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    I think there is a small market for this .Here in the the south West the local councils are doing everything they can to keep larger vehicles away from the sea front .
     
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    WHARTY said:
    You certainly have a talent for woodwork but i think 200kg is very heavy for riding around.

    If you want to get into town centres etc just go on private land. A fella comes to my town in the summer with his trike and sets up on the church which is in the centre of the town. He donates a little money to the church and gets a great pitch on private land where the council cant touch him.

    He uses these. http://www.businessonbikes.co.uk/
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    Hello,

    Thanks for you comments.

    Yes 200kg is quite heavy i thought at first but using the special bike it is actually not that bad, i like the idea of private land and now as the goverment is selling most of what they owe to the chinese lets hope they like ice cream ;)

    I will check this out for sure.

    Cheers
     
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  • #13
    willitbe said:
    Those Dutch bikes are hideously expensive!
    How many Ice creams would you have to sell to make that pay for itself?

    You would need something else close by to store and refridgerate your stock wouldn't you?

    Nice woodworking skills though!
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    Hello thanks for your time to add a comment:)

    Yes i could not believe the cost of these units but as i tend to do quite a lot of research before i start i set out with a budget of £2500 per unit.

    So far i have costed £2300 and that is all included with Bike, Freezer, wood, and any other material.

    I decided to use a second hand bike that i found on this Dutch website, http://kopen.marktplaats.nl/search....f=0&postcode=&distance=&search.x=0&search.y=0

    i got a 6 year old unit for just over £700 and he even took it all the way for Calais.. where i meet him and i have agreed he will find me some more units.

    I have a customized freezer in the unit that can hold 10 x 4.5 L Napoli pans = 70 scoops x 10 pans = 700 x £1.50 per ice cream = £1050 max sale, not that i will sell that much on a day.

    Cheers

    Tor
     
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  • #14
    Normansmith said:
    Fantastic looking design, but does seem heavy if moving around all day. I used to manufacture Ice cream kiosks and Push carts many years ago and sold them to the ice cream manufacturers, they seem to have the councils worked out ! ;)
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    Hello and thanks for leaving a comment,

    Hmm, selling to ice cream manufacturers sound like a good idea, i hope to work out a deal with them to advertice space on my unit for a reduction in price but i will see.

    When it comes to moving around if i should be lucky enough to get a location on private land or anywhere for that matter i would not be moving around and i will have a van for any transport to location anyway.

    Another good idea cheers for that.

    Regards

    Tor
     
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  • #15
    AuthorizedAccess said:
    Looking at the cost of the bikes, altogether how much are you looking at selling the units for?

    I'm asking because as stated above, the bikes alone are expensive, once you've put cost of materials with a margin and labour on top would this product be "too expensive" for it's work?

    However I do know of a place where you could get an electric scooter for roughly £600 brand new, would this be more cost effective? and perhaps more appealing due to the weight?

    I'm assuming you've already looked into all of this, and I'd love to see those in Manchester!

    With regards to weight, I wouldn't say it was overly heavy, however with regards to locations you'd be a bit stuffed I think... What I mean is, someone from Manchester could buy one, but someone from somewhere like... Scarborough would be put off by the idea because of the amount of hills... I mean, just under 200kg for a fully loaded unit with say someone who is at 95kg wouldn't be too bad, momentum would get them going if anything. :D

    Have you thought about making the unit out of something more light-weight but with the same durability?

    Obviously I know nothing about wood, other than it comes from tree's ;) ... but there must be something else out there that could/would give the same effect?
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    Hello and thanks for leaving a comment,

    I have not thought of a cost for the units for sale yet as i am would prefer to trade of my units and i guess i would need to do a bit more research before i could put a price on it.

    I have been looking at renting it out as a business unit for the summer months (3) at £400 a week with 1 month minnimum rental again i am just playing with the options i might have.

    As i said in a post on page 2 i have stuck to my budget of £2500 and i believe after doing a bit of research it is a resonable prize considering a lower end bike with a fridge placed on front cost £2000 new with no passion or USP.

    I did look at some electric bikes but icould never find and nice ones and as i am trying to replicate a 1920's rustic/antique feel i dont know, but £600 is a good price and i am always looking for the 3rd unit:)

    When it comes to location i think i will have some restrictions in a few places but this levels out with other places that opens up since it is not powered with a motor, again with the potential of transporting it to a pitch etc where it will stand still like a park or town centre with a van.

    I am using Oak and as it is quite heavy i am looking at reducing the weight by doing from 22mm wood down to about 12mm, the design will be a bit different but i will retain the look of the unit also there are lighter wood that can be used but no i have not done a lot of research on it.

    Again some more positive things to think about and i will go away thinking about it.

    Cheers and Thanks for your thoughts, i would not mind if you sent me the link for the £600 bike:)

    Cheers

    Tor
     
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  • #17
    And the good news just keeps comming, i spoke to a Council worker at Whistable a couple of weeks ago and they gave me a call back today after i sent them a mail with the completed pictures and they would like to meet Next week.

    There are 2 Pitches available on the sea side for Mobile (Non Motor) veichles.

    Hope it goes well.
     
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