Performing rights licence

Does anyone know about the laws concerning playing music in public?

I have been contacted a couple of times by the Performing Rights Society who seem to think I should need a licence to play music in my business premises. Since I work alone, and play the occasional CD for my own pleasure, I can't believe that I do. Anyway, they can't prove it, so they can whistle for it (as long as anyone who listens to them whistling pays the appropriate fee).
I am all for musicians getting what's due to them, but I think the PRS is taking its remit a bit too far. This is a quote from their leaflet "Are You Listening": "..it is a legal requirement to gain permission from the
music creator to play their music outside of the home...". That means that if you listen to your iPod outside your front door or a CD in the car, you ought to first get permission from the music creator, and / or be paying fees to the PRS? Really?
I contacted the PRS to clarify this, but they ignored my specific questions and just sent me another copy of the leaflet.
They also talk about "public performance", but nowhere in their literature do they define what "public performance" actually means.
Perhaps they have given up on policing the millions of illegal downloads that go on every day, and instead are going for the easy pickings of small businesses.
 
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They used to have a definition of what constituted 'public' which I'm fairly sure used to be a number above 1 person, but they seem to now be saying that anywhere outside the home qualifies as public, which seems a bit harsh.
 
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jholden

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I have provided a link to the pricing structure, even music played at work stations has to be paid for.

Link is usual www then mcps-prs-alliance.co.uk/SiteCollectionDocuments/PPS%20Price%20Guides/Offices%20and%20Factories%20Price%20Guide.pdf

It would appear harsh, minimum is just under £86pa.

The plus side, I don't think it is that expensive.

You have to wonder how many don't pay? After all you can listen over the internet through your PC.
 
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It's the media mafia.
You need to be a little careful because they are backed by huge legal teams and supported by such as Sony and Micro$oft.

Unlike the French Gov't, who tend to stick 2 fingers up at what I would describe as extortion rather than good business practice, our Gov't & laws are more like the USA where the conglomerates get what they want.

I've certainly heard cases of small 'corner shop' hairdressers being forced to turn the radio off, but if you work alone I can't see them having a case.
 
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I had a similar call from them last year. I asked the guy to define "public" and asked him if he knew whether or not we fell within his definition or if he was just fishing. I then told him that he was wasting my time as I don't take unsolicited calls and if he wanted more information he should make an appointment to call in and see me in person. 9 months on I have yet to hear more! They are leeches and will get short shrift if ever they do turn up. Lets face it, unless they are going to take up residence on my premises they'll never catch us "in the act" anyway, and if they do I shall politley ask them to leave and bar them from returning! :)
 
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I then told him that he was wasting my time as I don't take unsolicited calls and if he wanted more information he should make an appointment to call in and see me in person. 9 months on I have yet to hear more!

Thanks Chippie

Now that's the sort of practical business advice I like to read! The PRS call us every year, refusing to believe that when we put a call on hold that no recorded music plays. They are piranhas, to be sure.
 
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In the old days as you walked in to venues they used to display a PRS sticker on the door saying they had paid there dues. This was mainly for the Live/disco music played there ( so the performers/DJ did not have to do anything). Most DJ's now can have all their music on Hard drives, of which there is a special licence strangely, so if you play from CD your fine convert to MP3 and play and you have to pay.

I to had this conversation with a PRS guy many years ago, who said if the radio is on and staff are listening to it, you have to pay, to which I argued that records pay needle time and so are paying already, BUT I was broadcasting so had to pay again, SO I said if I give every employee a radio and we all listened to the same song do we need one then, err... no, sorry it's the law.

I make video's mainly weddings in the summer and I purchase a MSPC (£5 for 5 copies) and PPL (£3 per DVD) licence so I can copy music to the clients DVD, which is fair enough, but to be paying money again is as bad as the tax system and money for old rope.

I would say if you listen to music in private in the back of the office and no public can hear then that should be fine. What happens on a beech when you play your music and someone walks by? in the car playing it bleeding ear loud in the car. What happens if oyu put a picture up on the wall, do they want money as people may look at it...


In the states they pay no fees to record companies to play music on the radio as the deem it advertising and when was the last time we got a free plug on radio for being a business, yeah never, so what makes them different
 
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