Working with a convicted sex offender

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Rocketman20166

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I have found out that a colleague of mine who I know on a personal level was recently found guilty of horrific child sex offences. He did not go to prison but has to do community service.

The company I work for knew of this back in November 2015 when this was first being investigated. He was still allowed to work in the office up until the last few months when he started working from home.

He is now convinced but is still being allowed to work for the company. Apparently they 'need' him but none of the staff have been told about anything.

This company is a very reputable travel company who offer family trips and also have a massive education department and deals with a lot of schools.

I've been told by HR they have procedures to follow and cannot just sack somone????

A previous company I worked for had a similar situation and the guy was sacked on the spot

Is there something I'm missing?
 

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If his crime resulted only in a community order, it wasn't 'horrific'.
Some of these things can be quite minor but they still result in being put on the register for the protection of the public.

He would not be allowed to work with children and it doesn't seem that he is. He's been punished for his crime and deserves a second chance.
 
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Compassion?

compassion
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  1. sympathetic pity and concern for the sufferings or misfortunes of others.
Doesn't seem to me to sit easily with:

'found guilty of horrific child sex offences'
 
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If his crime resulted only in a community order, it wasn't 'horrific'.
Some of these things can be quite minor but they still result in being put on the register for the protection of the public.

He would not be allowed to work with children and it doesn't seem that he is. He's been punished for his crime and deserves a second chance.


I did wonder that too. 'horrific child sex offences' don't usually end with community service.
 
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Ian J

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I don't see any problem at all. This man doesn't appear to be working with children and it seems that the only reason for your complaint is that you find it distasteful working in the same company as a convicted child sex offender even if his offence is nowhere near as serious as you have made out.

In the circumstances it may be better for your peace of mind if you left and found yourself another job as the company are doing nothing wrong and your colleague has been tried and punished by a court of law
 
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Whilst in my mind pretty much any sex offence involving a child is indeed horrific, sometimes as business people we need to make decisions based on what's best for our business, and try our best to leave emotion out of it.
 
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You have a simple set of choices.

1. Kick up a fuss and make this guy's life impossible. I really hope you are better than that.
2. Get on with life. The legal system has made a decision, and you can live with it. You are not in any danger here, and I doubt anyone else is either.
3. Let your bosses handle it. This is not your fight, and not your problem.
 
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Whilst in my mind pretty much any sex offence involving a child is indeed horrific, sometimes as business people we need to make decisions based on what's best for our business, and try our best to leave emotion out of it.

Agree. When it comes to children, oh don't get "just a bit bad".

Let's not forget that the sentence is probably reflective of a woeful justice system.

Personally, I would accept my employers decision. It's theirs to make, not mine. But I would quit, because the temptation to jump over the desk and throttle the perverted b*****d would always be there.
 
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The Byre

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found guilty of horrific child sex offences. He did not go to prison but has to do community service.

Horrific? Community service? I would want to know what these 'horrific' offenses were, before passing judgement!

I never trust people who want and even lust after going on a witch hunt.

Witches, Jews, blacks, queers, paedophiles, smokers, who do we pillory next? Whose lives to we set out to systematically destroy, just so that we can feel superior?
 
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Horrific? Community service? I would want to know what these 'horrific' offenses were, before passing judgement!

I never trust people who want and even lust after going on a witch hunt.

Witches, Jews, blacks, queers, paedophiles, smokers, who do we pillory next? Whose lives to we set out to systematically destroy, just so that we can feel superior?

Do you think the pervert cared about systematically destroying the life of the victim?
Not only is the victim often let down by the justice system, it seems that they are let down by a large proportion of society.

I think the attitude towards child sex offences of "it's all fun and games" is what got the BBC into trouble.
 
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Do you think the pervert cared about systematically destroying the life of the victim?
Not only is the victim often let down by the justice system, it seems that they are let down by a large proportion of society.

We don't know anything about what these so called horrific crimes were but I'm sure that if the fellow only got community service then they can't have been that horrific and in all probability didn't destroy anyone's life at all

I think the attitude towards child sex offences of "it's all fun and games" is what got the BBC into trouble.

Times have changed a lot since then as don't forget that at around the time of the BBC looking the other way homosexuality was still illegal
 
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We don't know anything about what these so called horrific crimes were but I'm sure that if the fellow only got community service then they can't have been that horrific and in all probability didn't destroy anyone's life at all



Times have changed a lot since then as don't forget that at around the time of the BBC looking the other way homosexuality was still illegal

Personally, I think any sex crime against a child is horrific.

What would you describe as not horrific. My former partners dad kissed her in way you shouldn't kiss a child when she 6 years old - it affected her life. I suppose you would call kissing not horrific?
 
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If his crime resulted only in a community order, it wasn't 'horrific'.
Some of these things can be quite minor but they still result in being put on the register for the protection of the public.

He would not be allowed to work with children and it doesn't seem that he is. He's been punished for his crime and deserves a second chance.

Sorry but no.

As in McVicar: "Sex case, sex case, hang him, hang him hang him".
 
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Have you ever made a mistake and deeply regretted it? If you did, I bet that mistake isn't going to hang over you for the rest of your life. This employee has served his or her time and is now trying to get on with their life as a decent tax paying member of society. They are not working with children and no children are being put in danger. They are simply paying their way in life. Or would you rather they sat unemployed in a room somewhere and you pay their keep?
 
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Community Service is instead of a custodial sentence. If you do not complete the community service you get locked up. Even so it is often seen as "they only got community service".
 
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Facts before a witch hunt (as The Byre has stated) would be the best way to go.

There's a guy here in Bury who had sex "unknowingly" with an underage girl - she was in fact 15 at the time. She told him that she was older - he is now a registered peadophile. o_O

If you're in a club/pub anywhere in the UK and a lass comes up to you full on... and is a bit of a stunner and you're amazed at how a fugly chap like you can pull a lass like this... does this mean that your alarm bells automatically start to ring out?

Nah...

I was in a pub down south many many years ago, I bought a few beers, ended up pulling a lass - turned out she was 17... I was 24... I had no idea of her age... we had a good time though :) She initiated everything... I was well... going through my first divorce and struggling mentally... and had no care in the world.

Personally, and I'm being devils advocate here - if a young "woman" and I use the term loosely pulls a fella - and doesn't disclose that they're not of legal age - then it is she that has enticed him in... yet that chap has no chance, not a leg to stand on... looking at past history - it's always the chap that suffers? Why? she was the "Black Widow" in the short and meaningless relationship... it's hardly fair... she gets what she wants... to become "A Woman" he gets punished for it?

On the other hand - with the past few stories about teachers getting it on with students... (15 years old) then I see that as being entirely different - obviously the teacher knows... therefore deserves to be punished... but if it's an actual relationship and the lass waits for the fella... then I see nothing wrong with that.

We can't help who we fall for - it's human nature - but it's also our will and it's in our power to see right from wrong... some just fall off their path.
 
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