what to ask an SEO company?

pendipidy

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Hi,

I am looking for a seo company or individual for my limited budget to do some work for me. Can anyone advise what questions i should ask them to ensure that i ask the right questions? My site is an internet retail gift store (not sure if i am allowed to post a link) and i am not sure which questions i should and could ask.

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Ask them for proof of results before payment. If you have the time, you will probably get as good results doing SEO yourself once you learn about article marketing and good content, especially on a limited budget. Certainly, there is much you can do on your own site first and that should be your staring point. If your site isn't SEO'd properly, you will always struggle.
 
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    You should certainly be asking for;

    references
    evidence of previous work
    expected outcomes and timescales
    mosthly cost
    is their a tie in period

    Any decent SEO will be able to provide you with all of the above.

    I'd also suggest that if you are considering anyone from UKBF, click on their username and view all their previous posts.

    Please do drop me a pm, and I'll gladly email you all of the above.
     
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    pendipidy

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    You should certainly be asking for;

    references
    evidence of previous work
    expected outcomes and timescales
    mosthly cost
    is their a tie in period

    Any decent SEO will be able to provide you with all of the above.

    I'd also suggest that if you are considering anyone from UKBF, click on their username and view all their previous posts.

    Please do drop me a pm, and I'll gladly email you all of the above.

    Thanks you, have just sent you an email via your website enquiry form.

    JC
     
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    All of the above are good questions, I would add that you should ask what sort of results you will should expect after say 2, 6 and 12 months. When I say results I don't mean ranking positions, I mean hits and sales. This will give you a good idea as to the reurn you could be making. Keyword rankings alone really aren't a very good metric for measuring results. (nor is "Page Rank"!!!)

    I'd also point out that it isn't always cost effective for a small business to employ an SEO. You may never see the kind of return you would need tojustify the outlay, especially if you are a small site in a competative market.

    Here are a couple of links on measuring the success of an seo campain, from which you should be able to extract some useful questions before signing up:

    http://www.agent-seo.com/seo/5-ways-to-measure-seo-success/
    http://www.searchenginejournal.com/how-do-you-measure-your-seo-campaign-success/7518/

    Another good question is what happens if you're not happy with the results, can you get money back? can you cancel the contract?
     
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    RedEvo

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    IMHO finding the good guys is more about the questions they ask you than the questions you ask them. If they ask you questions that make you look long and hard at your business, questions that challenge you, questions that make you think differently about your website then you might be onto something.

    All just IMHO of course :)

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    IMHO finding the good guys is more about the questions they ask you than the questions you ask them. If they ask you questions that make you look long and hard at your business, questions that challenge you, questions that make you think differently about your website then you might be onto something.

    All just IMHO of course :)

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    That's my advice too. Let them talk, let them ask the questions. If they don't ask questions then their either geniuses or working to a standard template and you're not likely to get anything specific to you. If they then start on about the fact how much google loves you putting links on your site to their other sites you know that its one to drop very quickly!!

    Also, if they're doing link building, ask them who owns the websites they're putting links on.
     
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    You need to be careful with this. The SEO's job is to deliver the appropriate traffic to your website. Your website's job is to convert this traffic. SEO at this level cannot make people buy stuff.

    Any SEO company that knows what they are doing should be recommending onsite/design changes for optimisation value though.

    If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
     
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    I think a few people would disagree with this.

    SEO is a process designed to improve the visibility of a website in the organic SERPs. Internet Marketing is the process of analysing traffic and engaging and persuading people to make a purchase or to use what the website offers after they arrive there.

    Having said that, I am neither an Internet Marketing nor an SEO specialist but I will often advise clients that their content is unsuitable for what they are trying to sell.

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    If you're developing your own niche site it might be a good idea to read up a bit on SEO and start optimization on your own first, i.e., if you have the time. This way, you'll get a feel of what it takes to rank for your keywords and generate traffic.

    When you're ready to hire a professional SEO, a few questions might be in order:

    - ask for his or her portfolio and references.
    - ask about methods and strategies he plans to deploy on the campaign.
    - ask about the time frame and costs involved.
    - ask about availability and ability to respond to your questions promptly.

    I strongly suggest that you talk to him personally rather than do chat or email exchange. By his answers during your conversation, you can determine if the person really knows his SEO or just a newbie bluffing his way into your employ.
     
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    I think a few people would disagree with this.

    SEO is a process designed to improve the visibility of a website in the organic SERPs. Internet Marketing is the process of analysing traffic and engaging and persuading people to make a purchase or to use what the website offers after they arrive there.

    Having said that, I am neither an Internet Marketing nor an SEO specialist but I will often advise clients that their content is unsuitable for what they are trying to sell.

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    You're right, a few people would disagree with that. Those that are still living in the 90's.

    In order to succeed in SEO, you may have to make onsite changes/design changes/code changes, it's what the algorithms require now and certainly required to compete with some competition. Depends on the level of the website of course.

    In some cases, you simply won't rank if this attention isn't given.
     
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    SEO is a process designed to improve the visibility of a website in the organic SERPs. Internet Marketing is the process of analysing traffic and engaging and persuading people to make a purchase or to use what the website offers after they arrive there.
    Not often I find myself agreeing with BDW, but in this case I do. And I'd go further. Regardless of what the SEO calls themselves they are offering what they are offering. There is no legal or moral requirement for an SEO to do anything more than what they propose...
     
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    Not often I find myself agreeing with BDW, but in this case I do. And I'd go further. Regardless of what the SEO calls themselves they are offering what they are offering. There is no legal or moral requirement for an SEO to do anything more than what they propose...

    Quite right, and as part of our SEO programmes, we offer our clients any advice that will help their position in the SERP's. And if that requires making changes to their website, it's their call whether to proceed with that or not.

    That's just part of our SEO process. Why take 10 months to rank when you can shave off 3 months by optimising code, design and functionality.
     
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    i started life in civil engineering, and I will never forget this little conversation between a bricklayer and a stonemason.

    bricky - hah stonemason my backside, I am laying more bricks than you.

    Stonemason - indeed you are

    Bricky - so what's so special about you being a stonemason then?

    Stonemason - next week you will be laying bricks for £7 an hour, I will be dry stone walling at £300 per M

    To me that sums up the vast differences between Seo's & erm... SEO's. sadly in this case there is one title fits all, when it clearly doesn't.
     
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    You're right, a few people would disagree with that. Those that are still living in the 90's.
    I would say that people who cannot distinguish SEO from Internet Marketing may be living in the nineties. SEO is a subset of Internet Marketing that is used to help sites gain ranking. That is all.

    In order to succeed in SEO, you may have to make onsite changes/design changes/code changes, it's what the algorithms require now and certainly required to compete with some competition.
    Did I say something different?

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    do some research to find out how they SEO their own site, what rankings and links they have - if they promise you one thing yet don't even manage to promote their own site well, go ahead and toss this offer

    the best would be to get hold of their clients and interview them directly. on-site testimonials are always great - the reality can be quite different

    I would also be very curious on their deliverables: what do they promise to you (hopefully not something like "top 10 rankings in one week") and how much oversight will you have over their work: will they report to you often, what metrics will they use, ask for sample seo reports... something of this sort
     
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    do some research to find out how they SEO their own site, what rankings and links they have - if they promise you one thing yet don't even manage to promote their own site well, go ahead and toss this offer

    the best would be to get hold of their clients and interview them directly. on-site testimonials are always great - the reality can be quite different

    I would also be very curious on their deliverables: what do they promise to you (hopefully not something like "top 10 rankings in one week") and how much oversight will you have over their work: will they report to you often, what metrics will they use, ask for sample seo reports... something of this sort

    An SEO who doesn't promote their own site might be a wiser choice. Most high ranking SEO companies buy links and / or leave massive link footprints across their clients sites. Also Adwords in my experience gives a way better return than SEO on SEO keywords.
     
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    Tin

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    You should certainly be asking for;

    references
    evidence of previous work
    expected outcomes and timescales
    mosthly cost
    is their a tie in period

    Any decent SEO will be able to provide you with all of the above.

    I'd also suggest that if you are considering anyone from UKBF, click on their username and view all their previous posts.
    I'd second all the above with the addition to stay clear of any company that requires a tie in and if you're considering anyone from UKBF, whilst you are looking at their previous posts, try to get a feel for what the seo communities opinion of them is.

    Also, it is vital to actually pick up the phone and speak to references and ascertain, how long the seo has been working for them and exactly what the gains have been in terms of ROI.

    IMHO finding the good guys is more about the questions they ask you than the questions you ask them. If they ask you questions that make you look long and hard at your business, questions that challenge you, questions that make you think differently about your website then you might be onto something.

    Any SEO company that knows what they are doing should be recommending onsite/design changes for optimisation value though.
    These are both spot on. If you don't come away from a company feeling as though both you and the website have been through the wringer then you've not found the right seo for you. Seriously and in my opinion, a good SEO (and by that I mean someone who is going to give you the best chance of success) will be someone who will look at the whole picture, take your website apart and put it back together ensuring that no stone is unturned to make sure that they a) get you traffic and b) that traffic not only converts into sales but also brings in extra traffic. In my experience, there is usually a lot of hard truths said in the first interview.

    Regardless of what the SEO calls themselves they are offering what they are offering. There is no legal or moral requirement for an SEO to do anything more than what they propose...

    Going to disagree with this one and say that one of the most important questions to ask an seo company is "whether the site has got what it takes to be successful, not only in rankings but in conversions and therefore ROI?" and if not "why not?"

    the best would be to get hold of their clients and interview them directly. on-site testimonials are always great - the reality can be quite different

    This is so true, don't be swayed by loads of glowing written testimonials, these are so easy to fake. I go back to what I said earlier, pick up the phone and actually chat with previous clients.

    Lastly, I made a post on here 4 years ago along these lines so have updated it slightly to keep it relevant and added it here as a bit more food for thought.
    You could start with asking them for some client results that demonstrate their work which'll obviously be in the form of ranking positions and respective client url's. I'd expect them to work across different markets so you should be able to get a cross section of clients and start looking into the results they've obtained for the clients. This will give you some idea of how well they adapt to the varying differences in keyword competition through various markets.

    Don't automatically assume when you're verifying those keywords that a high number of results (1 to 10 of about XXXXXXXX) is indicative of true competition as it's not that straightforward, some serps (search engine results pages) can 'appear difficult' if you just look at the possible number of results but may in fact be quite easy to achieve whilst others, may seem easy but in reality can sometimes have high competition and 'depth' for what seems on the surface as simple.

    I think what 'is' important is that the most appropriate keywords that are targeted are the ones that will deliver the most benefit to the client without wasting any of the site's resources on non-performing keywords.

    When you're doing your checks take a little time to look over the site concerned to get a good feel for what the site is about, this should put a few keywords/keyphrases into your mind then go and check the ranking based on those keywords and see how things look. Page 1 of Google is where the money is and the higher up the better.

    Obviously beware of any guarantees, Google doesn't offer them up for grabs so how can an seo.

    Find out exactly what the seo is going to do for you and don't be put off by jargon or waffle, a good seo should be able to explain everything for you in layman's terms.

    Running off some quick questions..............

    1. Ask them what they do about page titles & descriptions. They should be unique and specific to each and every page in the site.

    2. Ask them what they do about session url's (assuming they do eCommerce sites). Ideally, they need to dump the query string and turn it into something short and meaningful. If it's a non eCommerce site then the urls would help if they're relevant somewhat to the page content.

    3. Do they research keywords/phrases and how. There's some guesstimation in this regard but essentially, running a test bed PPC account which targets a keyword short list will provide decent data on ad impressions (users looking under those keywords) and is a very good guide to search volumes. Google keyword tool, Keyword Discovery and Wordtracker are three popular sources of information, expect very mixed results but some trends should emerge after staring at the numbers over a few cups of tea.

    4. What do they do about external link building. Basically, you want 1 way, non reciprocal on topic (or as close to on topic as you can get) links from quality sources. Tons of junk links that are way off topic are a waste of time and resources. You'll also benefit from deep links so ask them about those and how they go about sourcing them.

    5. Do they code spiderable internal navigation links into their sites. Internal links within a site count as well as external links so they must ensure that the search robots can find every page within the site from all links.
     
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    Regardless of what the SEO calls themselves they are offering what they are offering. There is no legal or moral requirement for an SEO to do anything more than what they propose...

    Going to disagree with this one and say that one of the most important questions to ask an seo company is "whether the site has got what it takes to be successful, not only in rankings but in conversions and therefore ROI?" and if not "why not?"
    That's just silly. In the world of Tin, a Kia dealership must also offer Porsches because after all he is a car dealer isn't he.

    Read the offer... If it's not what your after, go elsewhere...! :rolleyes:
     
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    Going to disagree with this one and say that one of the most important questions to ask an seo company is "whether the site has got what it takes to be successful, not only in rankings but in conversions and therefore ROI?" and if not "why not?"
    ^ IMO that's Internet Marketing and Consultancy, not SEO. ^

    SEO is the process of optimising a website to get it found. It is a subset of Internet Marketing, which is what you are proposing.

    If this were true then website designers would have to ask the same questions of all their prospective clients and try to determine if the proposed website was likely to succeed. I do not see that as part of my remit. If I see obvious problems with an idea I will discuss this with my prospective clients but I do not see it as my role to closely scrutinise each project and try to determine how viable it is.

    If a shopfitter is asked to kit out a shop for someone he would not be expected to question the owner's business plan now would he?

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    That's just silly. In the world of Tin, a Kia dealership must also offer Porsches because after all he is a car dealer isn't he.

    Read the offer... If it's not what your after, go elsewhere...! :rolleyes:
    Not at all but I do sincerely hope that the Kia has an engine, fuel tank and 4 good tyres and would be roadworthy.

    ^ IMO that's Internet Consultancy, not SEO. ^

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    It is but SEO is just one slice of the cake and to my mind, is worthless without the rest.

    I've seen way too many disappointed website owners who have spent good money on SEO and website design believing that they will make good money out of their website only to find they've got a lame duck and have wasted good money.

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    ^ IMO that's Internet Marketing and Consultancy, not SEO. ^

    SEO is the process of optimising a website to get it found. It is a subset of Internet Marketing, which is what you are proposing.


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    I think you will find the better SEO's encompass all forms of internet marketing and are in a strong position to advise clients of the viability of there plans.

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    First If you want to begin this "questions project" you need to find some good seo companies with good reputation based on clients recommendations.
    There have been good points made earlier about what questions to ask.
    But remember to check with another companies , and ask them what you get for your money, you can even say that you got better offers and give examples of what you heard from the first company but with a slight exaggeration.Then maybe you will hear something like: "let me check if i can upgrade you or give you more"
    No matter which company we are talking about , it always has competitors and it always want to be the best so maybe they will pull some string for you as well.:rolleyes:
     
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    do some research to find out how they SEO their own site, what rankings and links they have - if they promise you one thing yet don't even manage to promote their own site well, go ahead and toss this offer

    I would disagree with you there, seowise. We get most of our work through referrals, our site is there so we can tell people to have a look at it before we meet them. I would rather spend our time optimizing the clients site than our own :)

    As for those arguing about the specifics of exactly what SEO is, I think at the end of the day the client just wants more traffic and sales, so a good SEO/online marketer will use the appropriate mix of tactics in order to acheive these results, and be able to advise on an overall online strategy, including stuff like conversion optimization, paid search, tying it all in with your offline marketing efforts and so on.
     
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