Wat is the best ecommerce script?

Hi Paul
I can see what your asking for, and the way you mean it, i just cant see how the system will work at all with it.

I produce a few mods for virtuemart, that make it work in different ways, and just cant see how it will work at all.

Have you a demo i can see, so i can see how it shows the stock control in the attribute stock numbers, as there must be a list of stock numbers that dont relate to products in the system?

Many thanks
Ian

I have set up a quick demo product to demonstrated this stock control feature in one of our old demonstration online shops (try ordering a t-shirt, colour cream, size small).

I have also set up an osCommerce admin screenshot of how this is handled in the admin system.

I hope this helps.

You have to manually enter the stock numbers initially, the system then keeps it up to date automatically as items are purchased. The options can be set up once manually so they can be shared across products, but you still have to link them in manually when you create a new product from scratch.

One more question :)

If we sold 5 sizes in 5 colours one being red, and the red went out of stock acodring to the stock system, will it just drop the one red attribute, leaving all the others?
 
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One more question :)

If we sold 5 sizes in 5 colours one being red, and the red went out of stock acodring to the stock system, will it just drop the one red attribute, leaving all the others?
The red colour option will still be there and there will be an "out of stock" message next to it in the option list. I have added red with no stock to the demo. A similar thing would happen if all the small size shirts in all colours sold out. This is configurable within the admin system to handle it in different ways if necessary (e.g. just remove red from the list).
 
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If we are talking about standalone shop systems, just to add to my rant and rave whilst stamping my feet (and eating a Muller corner yogurt), apart from the original poster Bumperman, nobody has mentioned even once, possibly the most exciting and incredible system on the market.

Magento

I left this out to see if any of the pros on here have actually even looked at it, and nobody obviously has. It is said to be the next huge system that will without doubt destroy all the open-source and commercial packages available today.

Just went through 5 pages of very interesting reading.

Our current site is OSCommerce (see link in signature) and am looking to move to a different platform due to how poor it is for SEO's terms.

My php developer mentioned Magento to me about 6 weeks, I took a look and it has absolutely everything you could ask for. I am going to move to this next once the PROTX payment method can work with it.
 
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Ahh right i never saw that thread

I think Magento's timing is great for the osCommerce v3 alpha as Magento's beta availability now should up the ante for what finally gets delivered in osCommerce v3 in the coming months. Before Magento, there wasn't much competition in the free open source ecommerce arena, with just osCommerce (and its derivatives like Zencart and CRELoaded) and VirtueMart as the main players. A little bit of extra competition should raise the bar all round. Whether Magento's timing is good for Magento is another matter, perhaps it shouldn't have shown its hand so early with osCommerce v3 around the corner, perhaps it should have kept itself under wraps until osCommerce v3 was released.

I'm still asking in this thread, as their is no point in splitting this conversation across 2 threads.

Just curious, why Should Magento keep itself under wraps and wait for Osc stable release, shouldn't it be the other way around?
http://forums.oscommerce.com/index.php?showtopic=186458

OSC has been in production since (the first i could find on the forums at least) Dec 2005, it is now Feb 08 and they arnt out of Alpha testing yet.
http://www.oscommerce.com/community/roadmap

From what i could see in the other thread, everything was done to undermine Magento.

People complained about it being too heavy in Object orientated source code, the file sizes, etc etc. Which was then proven later on not to be correct.

In my eyes, there is only one thing that comes first, and that's the client. Make sure they can use the system, its userfriendly, can be upgraded, has good code on the front end, and most importantly out of everything, is expandable so can grow with the company.

From what i have seen so far of OSC3, it still doesn't allow extra content pages or other systems to be bolted to it, with out some major scripting work. In fact i have installed it on my server (as i was interested myself), and cant see anything different than most other shopping systems have.
http://www.joomlamagazine.com/testserver/osc3alpha4/

Does anybody know of anything that really makes OSC3 worth while watching?

DAM!!!
I wrote this at 11am this morning, and forgot to press "post", must have pressed preview, and just noticed now when shutting the pc down :D
 
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With the earlier thread on magento, after some initial shock and confusion regarding the download size was cleared up, the general first impressions were positive ones.

To me the advantages of osCommerce, and why we made the strategic decision to customise and use it for the online shop section of websites created with our sitebuilder service, include:

1. osCommerce v2.x has a large existing client base of shop owners that have successfully put the system to use in many different areas, which shows that it is flexible, osCommerce and its contributions have already solved various problems and issues shop owners face, and generally it is doing something right (in the right hands)

2. With any software system that gets more complex with time, at certain stages you have to take a step back from adding to it making it more complex, and focus on simplifying the system and perhaps re-architecting for your future plans. This is what the osCommerce guys are doing with v3.x, they are re-writing it from scratch with a much better architecture, in order for it move forward - something that was definitely needed in osCommerce's case.

3. osCommerce v3, whilst the public-facing shop demos do not look very different, has a lot of differences under the hood, including XHTML, a much improved admin system, and other major improvements to the base system, bringing in some functionality that was previously only available as contributions, and adding new functionality.

4. When the much improved osCommerce v3.x is eventually released, you also have to ask the question what is the point of some of its derivative v2.x builds like Zencart and CRELoaded, which originally were there to address problems with osCommerce v2.x, problems that might no longer be there with v3.x

With our sitebuilder service we aren't worried about whether osCommerce is a CMS too, providing a cms for non-shop pages, since all of the non-shop CMS is handled by our sitebuilder cms. But if you are going the DIY route and want an online shop and a CMS for a lot of non-shop content, then osCommerce v3 alone still probably isn't the best way to go, and you should consider a Joomla and Virtuemart combination. Joomla provides the overall architecture for plug-ins, and Virtuemart is the ecommerce plug-in. Who knows perhaps someone one day will integrate osCommerce with Joomla so it can fit into Joomla too.

Alternatively if you want a single system solution for both ecommerce and non-shop cms, with some imaginative coding, it shouldn't be too difficult to turn any open source ecommerce system into a cms for non-shop content too, by reserving one shop category within the shop for the non-shop content, not displaying the 'non-shop' category in the normal shop, but using its content (sub-categories, products) for your site's sections and articles content.
 
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