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Discussion in 'General Business Forum' started by Kenvin Breck, Jul 8, 2019.
Are you thinking of Timpsons? I thought they only cut keys?
They have mobile locksmiths too
Pfft... They're cobblers... they have one BLI Locksmith within the whole company - and he doesn't even go out doing any work... they've used the MLA against itself...
I know of some who would disagree with that too
I have made the mistake of thinking they are cobblers, a lesson learned there.
Being in the MLA helps with the massive number of companies that refer to it, but is not required. Anyone with a good practical background can become skilled as a locksmith with City & Guilds qualifications.
I'm an expert key cutter. I was in that line of business for a while about 30 years ago. I'm seriously good at keys ...which is why I'm amazed anybody walks around with keys in their hands plainly visible to all and sundry. I need to see a Chubb or Mortice key for literally 2 seconds and I can go away and make a copy. If I have my mobile on video record I could go away and make copies of every key on that bunch!
Cutting keys is simple. Or was at that time. You needed a machine for Yale type keys, one of Chubb type keys and that was it, it covered almost everything including most car keys (except the new BMWs etc at that time which had what were called "laser" keys but had nothing to do with lasers).
Anyway, long story ...less long: nowadays you need all kinds of computers and software for most car keys and I wouldn't know where to start. House keys are moving that way as well and getting complicated. I returned with a friend to his house recently and he had to get his phone out to open his front door!
But I understand that the best way to learn how to deal with locks is to commit a crime and go to jail for a bit. You pick up a lot of skills in there including, apparently, advanced lock picking.
Can we please ban everyone who replied to this thread with generic, useless and often US-centric advice, just to get a post out there to promote their business?
There really should be a thumbs down button...
No such things as a City & Guilds Qualification actually.
The only relation to City & Guilds is a tailored based award scheme... it's not a qualification, and until the Government states that being a Locksmith is a recognised trade it never will be...
With regards to your comment, it's not required... you're correct, I don't believe I said so... however the MLA provide the only decent Locksmith course in the country, hence why it's a lot more expensive than the other courses that are out there... who suggest that you can become a Lockie within 5 days of training... it takes a hell of a lot longer to become a Locksmith, purely because of the many different manufacturers of locking products out on the market... and it's continuing growth and constant changes to standards and regulations in the country mean that it's not something someone can just take a 5 day course for and start up without knowledge of fire, Risk & Health & Safety along with building regulations, knowledge of the DDA etc etc... the list is pretty endless to be honest and it's still growing.
Hi, I have been working at Egham Locksmiths for 14 years and would like to give several tips how to become a professional locksmith indeed.
1. Improve your skills searching for new information concerning your trade.
2. Investigate your area. Local locksmiths are more trusted than nationwide, so you should be aware of some peculiarities of your locality - criminal situation, type of doors/locks/keys, etc.
3. Be dependable and approachable.
4. Do not overcharge. The highest quality doesn`t mean the highest price.
5. Be well-equipped. Bad/broken equipment is one of the main features characterizing unprofessional locksmith.
learn to pick locks. subscribe to bosnianbill or lockpicklawyer on youtube if you're interested,
Also it's not necessary to actually pick locks, most locksmiths featured on BBC watchdog seem to just drill them out and charge £300 for the work. They dont even use genuine yale locks. Just put in generic aftermarket that have the Yale style.
Don't let generalisation spoil your arguments
Thanks for the thumbs down. It is an accreditation 9950 - 08 rather than a qualification, slight detail and nothing to get excited about.
I work to publicise local locksmiths with their website and advertising which is costly as there is evidence of a large amount of click fraud going off. Some of the keyword prices are so high they are too expensive to use and are generally advertised by a few companies located in London that then send on the leads to local locksmiths who probably have to pay a fortune for those leads too.
The service does seem to have become monetised so everyone is paying more.
I bought one of those Chinese lock picker things where you insert it, squeeze the trigger a few times and your door lock opens. The first time you do it, there's a big smile on your face, then you get worried about your own house!
And the actual accreditation still doesn't have anything to do with Locksmithing... A rip off claim.
You claim to work to publicise local locksmiths, yet the so called accreditation you speak off is completely useless... it's just another money grabbing scheme and is worthless and will not get you work.
It is hardly costly to publicise a locksmith website... your "keywords" that you speak off are a complete rip off and doesn't work anymore... Google doesn't search for keywords anymore, it searches for content... Google hasn't used keywords for 9 years... I'm not tech savvy but even I know that.
The "few companies" that you speak of clearly know diddly squit and are as much as rip off for their services as the accreditation that you consider to be helpful to people that want to become Locksmiths.
Those who send "leads" are another rip off for Locksmiths, they have you sign up, take a cut on your income and over charge the end user... most national locksmith companies end up sending the so called "locksmith" who bugger up doors and locks and reduce the security of people's properties and pay over the price to do so.
The only real accreditation in the UK that is worth anything is by becoming an MLA Locksmith.
Sorry, but FACTS are more helpful than fiction.
A Professional Locksmith has honed his/her skills over years of being in the field, providing solutions to problems and getting people in to their homes with no damage to the existing locks or doors.
A non-professional Locksmith will just turn up, snap or dill out your locks and then charge you stupid money for doing it.
This is one of the major issues that REAL Locksmiths have, products are online and easily obtained to pick a lock by anyone... Until the UK Government recognises Locksmithing as a real trade, there's nothing anyone can do about it.