Tips to Become A Professional Locksmith

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  1. Kenvin Breck

    Kenvin Breck UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    The profession of a smith is not taken quite seriously people all over the world. Share here the tips to become a professional locksmith.
     
    Posted: Jul 8, 2019 By: Kenvin Breck Member since: Jun 15, 2019
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  2. Mark T Jones

    Mark T Jones UKBF Big Shot Full Member

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    Learn to cut keys.
     
    Posted: Jul 8, 2019 By: Mark T Jones Member since: Nov 4, 2015
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  3. Mr D

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    Smith as a profession appears to be taken seriously in many places.

    Some even make quite a bit of money from aspects of it. Some people collect blades made by bladesmiths.
     
    Posted: Jul 8, 2019 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  4. Chawton

    Chawton UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Whilst I have a lot of respect for smithing, in my estimation it is a restrictive practice and comes a distant second to monging.

    You can mong fish, cheese and iron. The world is basically your lobster.
     
    Posted: Jul 8, 2019 By: Chawton Member since: Mar 21, 2018
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  5. Mark T Jones

    Mark T Jones UKBF Big Shot Full Member

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    Aerosmith were a well respected band
     
    Posted: Jul 8, 2019 By: Mark T Jones Member since: Nov 4, 2015
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  6. Mr D

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    One very strange product when done together?
     
    Posted: Jul 8, 2019 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  7. daniel75

    daniel75 UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    You must be at least 18 years old
    You must complete the required training or apprenticeship (each state has different requirements)
    You must take and pass a certification exam (not always required, but always recommended)
    Obtain a business license (if you want to be self-employed)
    Clean criminal history (although many states will allow you to submit an FBI Criminal History Release, more on this later)
     
    Posted: Jul 9, 2019 By: daniel75 Member since: Jul 2, 2019
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  8. Kenvin Breck

    Kenvin Breck UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    thanks for this guideness
     
    Posted: Jul 9, 2019 By: Kenvin Breck Member since: Jun 15, 2019
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  9. Mark T Jones

    Mark T Jones UKBF Big Shot Full Member

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    Unless of course you are in the UK - which most of us are, this being the UK Business Forum.
     
    Posted: Jul 9, 2019 By: Mark T Jones Member since: Nov 4, 2015
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  10. JEREMY HAWKE

    JEREMY HAWKE UKBF Legend Full Member

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    You need to know about Locks
     
    Posted: Jul 9, 2019 By: JEREMY HAWKE Member since: Mar 4, 2008
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  11. Noah

    Noah UKBF Ace Free Member

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    ...and gates, paddles, winding gear, ...
     
    Posted: Jul 9, 2019 By: Noah Member since: Sep 1, 2009
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  12. Chris Ashdown

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    When you look through old telephone directories you find hundreds and thousands of smiths so quite a lot of competition
     
    Posted: Jul 9, 2019 By: Chris Ashdown Member since: Dec 7, 2003
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  13. glengraving

    glengraving UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    You need to be able to answer the phone to people who are locked out of their homes, and get them into their homes.
    Various ways to do it.
    No qualifications required, but it helps to have some business savvy, lock-picking skill, key duplication machinery and experience.
     
    Posted: Jul 9, 2019 By: glengraving Member since: Jan 24, 2019
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  14. TheoNe

    TheoNe UKBF Regular Full Member

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    There are typically two routes to becoming a locksmith - the formal education route and apprenticeship option.

    Education route - A variety of community colleges, schools of further education and professional recognition programs offer courses on what is needed to succeed.

    Apprenticeship option - Anyone who wants to become a locksmith can gain both education and training by joining an approved apprenticeship program. It can take up to 3 years to complete a traineeship.

    Once the appropriate level of education and work experience has been gained - your professional certificate and licence to operate will be issued.
     
    Posted: Jul 9, 2019 By: TheoNe Member since: Jul 6, 2019
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  15. glengraving

    glengraving UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    The UK locksmith industry isn't regulated - best practice is to become MLA Approved, but no certificates or proof of competency are required to trade as one.
     
    Posted: Jul 9, 2019 By: glengraving Member since: Jan 24, 2019
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  16. David Haughton

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    We recently needed a new barrel for our door, the locksmith came out had a look and told me that he charges £50 per hour and that the time charged is going to be 90 mins > £75. Had he told me the job would cost £75 (plus materials) that would be fine, and i appreciate that he probably doesn't get work 8 hours a day, and he has to live, and a persons value is only what people are prepared to pay, but i do wish he hadn't told me he was charging me £50 per hour :eek:

    That said, obviously there's money to be made but like anything you need to know your stuff. I fancy being a tree surgeon but there's a LOT of different trees, and apparently it's not just trees you deal with :(
     
    Posted: Jul 9, 2019 By: David Haughton Member since: Aug 19, 2017
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  17. David Haughton

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    A hammer would do that job nicely.
     
    Posted: Jul 9, 2019 By: David Haughton Member since: Aug 19, 2017
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  18. Root 66 Woodshop

    Root 66 Woodshop UKBF Big Shot Free Member

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    Sorry,

    There is no such thing as an Apprenticeship option for Locksmiths, especially one that takes 3 years to complete... nor is there a certificate or licence to operate in the UK.

    There isn't even a Locksmith course available with a college... unfortunately, it's a dying trade - we're seen as nothing special in the construction industry... hell, (bonus for us TBH) we don't even need a CSCS card anymore :D

    @David Haughton

    Google is your friend. ;)

    To change a barrel all you need is a little bit of know how and a pozi drive screwdriver... it takes 2 minutes tops to change a barrel, hence why we attempt to talk people to visit the shop, let us show you how to change the barrel at a small charge, then we send you away to measure your cylinder and hopefully come back to us to buy one from us.

    We're MLA Locksmiths, and we personally don't want the notoriety of being an overly-priced company... however, we charge £85.00 + VAT for the first hour, and then half hour charges thereafter for non-account holders and £72.00 per hour for account holders... but we do a lot more than basic barrel changing, we also do gate automation, door automation, access control, we can make a key to suit existing locks... we have over 1000 key blanks in the shop, we can obtain many different variants of restricted keys all the way up to old church keys...

    Prices are different across the country, plus you have the "man and van" Lockies out there that have no over-heads such as a gas, electric, B&M shops... therefore they can afford to charge as little as £40 - £60 per hour.

    If you're charged or even quoted anything over £120 including VAT to change 1 barrel - then shop around.

    There will always be dodgy Lockies out there who charge over the odds for doing little or nothing to your locks, always make sure you need one before you call one, and never contact a National Locksmiths... they honestly know nothing about what they're doing.

    The MLA (Master Locksmiths Association) are doing their best to get the trade to a point where you need a licence, as it is in Ireland... unfortunately the UK Government just don't think it's needed.
     
    Posted: Jul 9, 2019 By: Root 66 Woodshop Member since: Nov 22, 2011
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  19. Root 66 Woodshop

    Root 66 Woodshop UKBF Big Shot Free Member

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    Complete the MLA BLI Exam and join the MLA

    There is no other course out there worth the money.
     
    Posted: Jul 9, 2019 By: Root 66 Woodshop Member since: Nov 22, 2011
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  20. paulears

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    One of the UK's popular lock franchises has a policy of taking staff who have been in prison - it seems to work OK.
     
    Posted: Jul 9, 2019 By: paulears Member since: Jan 7, 2015
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