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Discussion in 'Time Out' started by sirearl, May 28, 2013.
Gotta be some conection.:|
Not one, not one single country in that list of 10 is socialist.
Well done. Bullet meet foot.
Perhaps the headline should be:
"The befuddled people seem to live in socialist dreamworlds"
Keep up with the Earlzilla links. We happy capitalists like a laugh.
"Socialism is an economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy"
That's from Wiki, which goes on to say that there are many definitions and variations but at core is social ownership rather than private ownership of the means of production.
I didn't mean you!... and I'm capable of using Google.
I meant what Earl thinks of as socialist. Trust me, what the definition says on Wiki and what is thought of as socialist can be two very different things.
Ideals and principles.
The UK is a socialist country?
Nit picking Capitalist.
Well as nice but dim got 36% of the seats and probably only 25% of the voters .
I suspect it may always have been.
Happiness it seems is not solely based on social welfare spending. There are no countries like Germany or France in that list, and those are much more "Welfare States" than even here in the UK.
Also, you have countries in that list like the US who would scoff at the idea of being labelled Socialist. In fact I'm pretty sure Socialism is a swear word in the United States.
Absolutely. And you're the nit being picked on...
I did not say all,just the majority.
I suspect the US was included because they seem so happy killing each other and anyone else they don't like.
As for people in the UK being happy.
Do me a favour.:|
We ALL have a bit of social(ism) at heart
and it's not particularly a political ideology
Being social, and socialism, are very much different things. Which is why I asked for it to be defined. I mean afterwards it was defined as the Welfare State, which isn't really "socialist". It just has social elements, and in the mix of it all is a hell of a lot which would be considered Anti-Social.
What is a socialist is a good question. Not to be confused by simpletons who take the "group think" view that Labour is good, Tories are evil...lol
"Historian Robert Paxton argues that the welfare state was created primarily by conservatives, and usually opposed by socialists and labor unions because they thought it would distract from their mission. He cites the German welfare state set up by Chancellor Bismarck in the 1880s, and the similar version set up by Count Eduard von Taaffe in the Austro-Hungarian Empire a few years later. The British welfare state originated with the Liberal party of David Lloyd-George around 1910. The French welfare state originated with the Vichy regime in the 1940s. "
That list looks like a pile of trash to me. Although i would personally rank Australia number one. They have great weather, a stable government, booming economy, and a mixture of cultures that appear to get along nicely together. You can see why so many Brits move there.
Then move back.
This list seems a little dated to me. Sweden, for example, might have been like that in the 80s but it's certainly not now. It all changed in the 90s and now they have a right wing government and even riots and things like healthcare are getting more and more expensive.
last time I was there, it seemed to me the only people Aussies liked were other Aussies