SSP for part time employee

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geronimo1234

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Hello all.

I have an employee who works part time for me Thurs Fri Sat, and part time for another business Mon Tues Weds.

With regards to SSP, can she claim this twice?if not, which of the two employers puts the claim through?

Also, am I right in thinking that you get a higher daily rate if you work fewer days? If your working week is Mon Tues Weds, and you're off all three days, does that constitute a full working week?

All I can work out at the moment is that you're better off being a part time worker when you're ill!

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Newchodge

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If an employee earns £113 per week, they are entitled to SSP. If they work in 2 jobs and earn £113 in each they are entitled to SSP in each job.

SSP is £89.35 per week, in each job that is eligible. If they work 3 days for you they are entitled to £29.78 every day they are off sick after the first 3 qualifying days. If they work 1 day per week they are entitled to £89.35 every day they are off sick.
 
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geronimo1234

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Thank you Cyndy I appreciate your help. I do have an issue with this, however with regards to the second job, as I know in previous sickness periods she has continued to work for her other employer even though she has been too ill to work for me.

I didn't see a problem with policing this before seeing as though I though I could reclaim SSP from the government, and it would be them they would be defrauding, but theoretically it's now me she's defrauding if she's lying or being economical with the truth (she refuses to call in sick or keep me updated with her absences until the actual morning she's due in work).
 
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Newchodge

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Get a properly written sickness absence management policy. If she is in breach of it she loses her right to SSP.

It is possible to be unfit to do one job, but fit to do the other. It depends on the type of illness and demands of each job.
 
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geronimo1234

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Thank you for your input.

Said employee came back to work on Monday. I had a return to work, an appraisal and some performance issues I needed to discuss so did them immediately. Unsurprisingly she went off sick again for the next two days despite telling me she was now doing much better and needed no support from me after this period of sickness.

I didn't expect what happened next. She called in to advise that her doctor has signed her off sick for a 3 month period. I have never in my life ever seen or heard of someone being given a sick note for 3 months without a need for review. I'm gobsmacked.
 
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geronimo1234

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My biggest issue is im stuck between a rock and a hard place. I physically cannot do the work on my own but have been for the last 3 months or so (to the detriment of my own health and family life).

Now this new sick note has appeared I now need to take on someone temporarily to help me. However I physically cannot afford to pay SSP and the wage of myself and another employee. I also have family to feed and can't afford to go without pay.

If I don't take on a new employee the reputation of my business hangs in the balance and I will physically burn myself out. If I do take someone on, the company won't have enough money to pay its outgoings.

I've never been as scared in my life.
 
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Newchodge

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What is the reason for the sickness absence?

How big (how many employees) is your organisation?

You may be able to dismiss because you cannot cope with long term sickness absence, but you have to handle it carefully.
 
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geronimo1234

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I give up. If you can't answer questions you obviously don't want help.

I'm sorry I'm not sure what you mean? I've had a few different employment legal specialists warn me. Each time I speak to someone the one thing I have taken away from each discussion is how there's nothing I can do or I'll end up at ET due to her being a pregnant employee.
 
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Newchodge

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I'm sorry I'm not sure what you mean? I've had a few different employment legal specialists warn me. Each time I speak to someone the one thing I have taken away from each discussion is how there's nothing I can do or I'll end up at ET due to her being a pregnant employee.

It's not my fault if you can't read. How many times have I asked you questions aimed at giving you meaningful advice, which you have completely ignored?
 
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geronimo1234

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I'm sorry I'm tired and at the end of my tether, so I'm sorry you feel I'm wasting your time, it's not my intention.

Reading back over your posts and answering questions I haven't answered inadvertently:-

1) the illness is literally extreme pregnancy related sickness
2) she has worked for me for 8 months as at today's date.
3) advisors to date include a legal helpline I'm a member of professionally, and an employment solicitor.
 
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