Small businesses and the Tottenham riots

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  1. mhall

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    Perhaps I should have added "or any other newspaper" ?

    Journalists are just people with an opinion who can string a word or two together and have the "honour" of giving their opinions to other people. Some you will agree with, others you won't but their opinion is no more valid than anyone else's.

    Whilst you may agree with what they say, it is important that you understand it is just an opinion and, therefore, may not be correct. As has been proved, they are not illiterate, certainly those who were charged in the first run at least. Journalists flower up their reports with language the reader wants to hear and Max Hastings is probably one of the best at that - he knows his market- and many Mail readers would have nodded their head and said "spot on", because they have read what they want to read.

    Being a good Journalist, which I am not doubting, does not make him factually correct or any more correct than anyone else which was my point, perhaps I didn't make it very well. As soon as you start believing it is fact instead of opinion (whether you share the views or not) you start to blur the lines of truth

    "Never believe all you read and only half of what you see and hear"
     
    Posted: Aug 11, 2011 By: mhall Member since: Sep 8, 2009
  2. sirearl

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    Quite, also coming from a privilideged background does tent to cloud ones view of the proletariat a tad.;)
     
    Posted: Aug 11, 2011 By: sirearl Member since: Apr 23, 2007
  3. captaincloser

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    Posted: Aug 11, 2011 By: captaincloser Member since: Mar 20, 2010
  4. mhall

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    As I do my very best not to read any newspapers at all I can't actually be offended by this :D They will print anything if it means people will buy it, they are a business like any other. I choose not to buy what they are selling - any of them.

    The news I need I just seem to get, I actually couldn't tell you where from as I tend to switch off most TV news as well and it would need to be something really special to get my attention. Now I think about it I believe I get my news from the radio. I must be getting old when Radio 4 has more attraction than Scott Mills


    I think I'm more right wing than most (apart from hating Thatcher) but I have to say that ignoring most news reports is probaly something I would recommend. If I need to know anything there are ways of searching as long as, again, you take everything with a pinch of salt.

    and I just thought the internet was for porn ! :eek:
     
    Posted: Aug 11, 2011 By: mhall Member since: Sep 8, 2009
  5. mhall

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    Sorry, I must just add that the Polls on the right of that page are very funny and would make it very easy for someone to generalise about the reader they are aimed at. I think I've found a new pastime, - "guess the percentage points" - not very difficult though.

    As for the piece itself - very funny. I particulalry like the "blue sky thinking" in this:

    "If anyone should be blamed for bringing about the conditions which have led to these appalling scenes in our cities, it is surely Harriet Harman"

    Calm down dear, you are only a journalist !
     
    Posted: Aug 11, 2011 By: mhall Member since: Sep 8, 2009
  6. Doodle-Noodle

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    Oh, I don't know, I'd happily blame Harriet Harman for just about everything, I even blame her for the X-Factor results not going the way I want them to. She is a hideous creature.
     
    Posted: Aug 11, 2011 By: Doodle-Noodle Member since: Oct 11, 2008
  7. Lucan Unlordly

    Lucan Unlordly UKBF Ace Free Member

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    I don't want to ruin your day but how on earth do you keep abreast of world events such as Cheryl being back with Ashley Cole?:D
     
    Posted: Aug 11, 2011 By: Lucan Unlordly Member since: Feb 24, 2009
  8. mhall

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    "Really? Well I never, tut tut tut"

    Seems to be an ideal response for most news I am told by someone else. It's never failed me so far and I use it constantly in the shops! :D
     
    Posted: Aug 11, 2011 By: mhall Member since: Sep 8, 2009
  9. hmmm

    hmmm UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    people should watch bbc 4 now
     
    Posted: Aug 11, 2011 By: hmmm Member since: Apr 14, 2011
  10. QuickHomeBuyers

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    What is on BBC 4, I dont have access to telly.
     
    Posted: Aug 12, 2011 By: QuickHomeBuyers Member since: Jan 9, 2010
  11. ps_leccy

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ You should be able to watch live when the channel is on, I believe :).


    As ever, while I'm sure there are some good points in that mail article - it's proving again where a lot of the problems come from - tabloids (and the bigger ones too in many cases, to be fair) which will pick up on any story and sensationalise it to the point the public think the some minor issue means half the government should be shot.
     
    Posted: Aug 12, 2011 By: ps_leccy Member since: Jul 19, 2011
  12. telemax

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    I think the way this is being reported abroad is really ridiculous. I had some close relations ring from Canada in a panic, literally thinking the whole Uk was in flames.

    This was despite me explaining that we are in Oxford and that we could here a pin drop on Saturday night, that only about 3000 out of the 60 million people in the country were rioting and the fact that my parents live a 5 minute walk from the Enfield riots and even they didn't feel in the slightest bit threatened.
     
    Posted: Aug 12, 2011 By: telemax Member since: Feb 14, 2006
  13. thebigIAM

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    Oh, I don't know, I'd happily blame Harriet Harman for just about everything, I even blame her for the X-Factor results not going the way I want them to. She is a hideous creature.

    Thanks for making me s****** over the above remark. Though I always found Harriet Harperson slightly less offensive than:

    Hazel Blears
    Patricia Hodge
    Patricia Hewitt
     
    Posted: Aug 12, 2011 By: thebigIAM Member since: Jan 11, 2009
  14. Doodle-Noodle

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    It is, indeed, a very close call - now you've mentioned Hazel Blears I think I'm detecting the first signs of nausea ........ she's the silly bint that dresses up as a motorcycle courier at weekends isn't she?
    The 2 Patricias are pretty horrid too, and then there's the one that looks like a gerbil .........can't remember her name now .....mind you, Ed Milliband is horrid too
     
    Posted: Aug 12, 2011 By: Doodle-Noodle Member since: Oct 11, 2008
  15. UKSBD

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    How could you possibly miss Caroline Flint of that list !
     
    Posted: Aug 12, 2011 By: UKSBD Member since: Dec 30, 2005
  16. papverpoppies

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    Doodles please......I luv Gerbils they are so cute, could you please find something else she looks like....a dead squashed animal that has been a road kill is acceptable:D

    Imagine being married to a female MP, 'vote for me darling, and I promise sex every night' (cunning plan, no intention of carrying it) out I'm an MP and I lie:D

    I would make a good MP,in one aspect move over Theresa May (or may not ) with her fancy shoes, and enter Poppy and her wellies:D
    Can you buy them on expenses?

    Pops ~xx~
     
    Posted: Aug 12, 2011 By: papverpoppies Member since: Apr 8, 2009
  17. captaincloser

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    Now then ,now then.. You can't blame Harriet Harman for everything !

    Most things yes (for the past 2 years she asks for a public enquiry on everything each time her gob opens). But if it's all her fault then that does not leave much room for Tessa Jowell, a jewel in the crown of Labour party nonsense.

    Hazel Blears was on the other night looking as if her head had been freshly dunked in Jeyes fluid. She is as brazen as they come. Caught fiddling and still able to get broadcast time...

    Caroline Flint is too ghastly to mention on a website that may be accessed by humans, she is the stuff of Grimms fairy tales.
     
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    Posted: Aug 12, 2011 By: captaincloser Member since: Mar 20, 2010
  18. papverpoppies

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    I thought Jeyes Fluid was meant to 'kill' all known germs dead.......oh sorry, that's domestos:D

    They have all been reading from the same 'bible' thou shall steal, lie and cheat'!:(

    Pops ~xx~

    Pops ~xx~
     
    Posted: Aug 12, 2011 By: papverpoppies Member since: Apr 8, 2009
  19. Doodle-Noodle

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    Jacqui Smith

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    Sorry Pops, but she definitely looks like a gerbil.
     
    Posted: Aug 12, 2011 By: Doodle-Noodle Member since: Oct 11, 2008
  20. papverpoppies

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    Which is which:|

    Pops ~xx~
     
    Posted: Aug 12, 2011 By: papverpoppies Member since: Apr 8, 2009
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