SEO Companies Calling My Clients!

[Ali-v-8]

Are you telling me you don't have laws in UK that would prevent businesses to do this?

It's called unloyal (it's not even a word in English LoL) competition. Basically, it should be defined by some work ethics laws that cold calling competitor clients and offering lower prices is illegal.

Well that strange?
Where are you from?
I mean every country has telesales people that ring up offering CHEAPER services or better services this is not an issue.

What we feel that is bad is when some one claims there are issues with the service where there are none.

 

[Toni Anicic]

Well that strange?
Where are you from?
I mean every country has telesales people that ring up offering CHEAPER services or better services this is not an issue.

What we feel that is bad is when some one claims there are issues with the service where there are none.

I'm from Croatia.

We also have a law about telecommunications that forbids anyone from calling you, e-mailing you or sending you mail if you didn't authorize it previously.

 

[Ali-v-8]

I'm from Croatia.

We also have a law about telecommunications that forbids anyone from calling you, e-mailing you or sending you mail if you didn't authorize it previously.

Yeah that's here to. Its called opt in.
But find me sales companies that don't ignore it.

I'm sorry but commerce survives on competition.
Its underhanded tricks that ruin it.

 

[directmarketingadvice]

Yeah that's here to. Its called opt in.

There's no opt-in required for telemarketing or direct mail. If you don't opt out, you can be approached that way.

(and, as far as I know, you can also be approached by a one-to-one email... if it's done right)

Steve

 

[Galway]

It will never stop and I am sure that an industry like ours that is built on deception, tricks and secrecy will have far more of this activity than most.

 

[Ali-v-8]

There's no opt-in required for telemarketing or direct mail. If you don't opt out, you can be approached that way.

(and, as far as I know, you can also be approached by a one-to-one email... if it's done right)

Steve

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you now have to opt into any mailing of data sharing.
It used to be opt out as the box was pre-tick online But law is now that you must choose to receive the mail.

 

[directmarketingadvice]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you now have to opt into any mailing of data sharing.
It used to be opt out as the box was pre-tick online But law is now that you must choose to receive the mail.

What do you mean?

Are you saying that no business can send me a letter without my permission?

(i.e without me having opted in with them)

Steve

 

[Ali-v-8]

not at all.

All i am saying is that the old system of opt-out is now illegal. That is a fact.
You must now opt-in (tick box)

The way that some companies get around this is by using the terms and conditions box. This is set so that you have to tick it to continue and guess what most companies include in that document (well most do)

 

[directmarketingadvice]

not at all.

All i am saying is that the old system of opt-out is now illegal. That is a fact.
You must now opt-in (tick box)

But, what does that mean in reality?

For example, is it now illegal to mail to compiled lists?

Steve

 

[Ali-v-8]

It depends on where the data is from.
Its my understanding that if a complaint is made that you must prove that they had opted in to receiving the mail.
I cant figure it how you would police it my self.

 

[directmarketingadvice]

It depends on where the data is from.
Its my understanding that if a complaint is made that you must prove that they had opted in to receiving the mail.

In that case, it would make using compiled lists illegal.

Do you have a link to this?

Steve

 

[david64]

Do you have a link to this?

I think Ali is right. I remember being around cold calling that was going on and I seem to remember it was acknowledged that what was going on was illegal.

Here is a link re. emails:

http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/action/detail?type=RESOURCES&itemId=1073790994
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_and_Electronic_Communications_(EC_Directive)_Regulations_2003

 

[directmarketingadvice]

I'm still pretty sceptical.

For example, if this were true, surely it'd be illegal for an estate agent to post flyers in their area.

(because those people wouldn't have opted in)

Steve

 

[david64]

I'm still pretty sceptical.

That link borked up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_and_Electronic_Communications_(EC_Directive)_Regulations_2003

I think all this stuff is limited to electronic communication.

 

[MARLEY2]

Hi there everyone. I have noticed some people talking about a company called smart traffic an SEO company. does anyone know if they are really that good ? they say pay half before and the same again when they get you to page one ?

 

[SEO Positive]

Hi there everyone. I have noticed some people talking about a company called smart traffic an SEO company. does anyone know if they are really that good ? they say pay half before and the same again when they get you to page one ?

maybe you should start a new thread asking this, and you may get a better response than having the question buried halfway in this thread.

maybe a mod will see this, and move it.

thanks.

 

[davin.master]

thanks valuable tips to escape our client from others.

 

[Ali-v-8]

"It is unlawful to send someone direct marketing who has not specifically granted permission (via an opt-in agreement). Organisations cannot merely add peoples details to their marketing database and offer an opt out after they have started sending direct marketing."

 

[SEO Positive]

"It is unlawful to send someone direct marketing who has not specifically granted permission (via an opt-in agreement). Organisations cannot merely add peoples details to their marketing database and offer an opt out after they have started sending direct marketing."

Yeah, I agree, you should be able to have a say from the outset, as this is "people spamming".

 

[directmarketingadvice]

"It is unlawful to send someone direct marketing who has not specifically granted permission (via an opt-in agreement). Organisations cannot merely add peoples details to their marketing database and offer an opt out after they have started sending direct marketing."

You're referring to "The Privacy and Electronic Communications (EC Directive) Regulations 2003".

I thought you were talking about something more recent.

In that case, I stand by my statement:

There's no opt-in required for telemarketing or direct mail. If you don't opt out, you can be approached that way.

(and, as far as I know, you can also be approached by a one-to-one email... if it's done right)

Steve

 

There is a completely "other" take on this.

Get a handful of sites of your own ranked #1 - put those on your website, and only then release other testimonials to bonafide customers.

And you can then keep tabs on who is cold calling because they will be ringing your sites contacts instead..

 

[SEO Positive]

There is a completely "other" take on this.

Get a handful of sites of your own ranked #1 - put those on your website, and only then release other testimonials to bonafide customers.

And you can then keep tabs on who is cold calling because they will be ringing your sites contacts instead..

I already do have a few sites of my own in the mix to see who is cold calling my clients.