Sending To Europe After Brexit

Discussion in 'International Business' started by Freakzilla, Dec 17, 2020.

  1. Freakzilla

    Freakzilla UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    I'm not VAT registered either.
     
    Posted: Jan 1, 2021 By: Freakzilla Member since: Jun 28, 2015
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  2. DontAsk

    DontAsk UKBF Ace Free Member

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    The barcode is for the parcel tracking, nothing to do with the contents or value.
     
    Posted: Jan 1, 2021 By: DontAsk Member since: Jan 7, 2015
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  3. DontAsk

    DontAsk UKBF Ace Free Member

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    It doesn't matter. You MUST affix a CN22 or CN23, depending on the value.

    It's very simple, there should be no confusion.
     
    Posted: Jan 1, 2021 By: DontAsk Member since: Jan 7, 2015
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  4. Freakzilla

    Freakzilla UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    But how does that show if customs\VAT has been charged on it for the receiving country?
     
    Posted: Jan 1, 2021 By: Freakzilla Member since: Jun 28, 2015
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  5. Mr D

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    It doesn't.

    However it does give certain information allowing them to decide to charge. Or examine the contents.
     
    Posted: Jan 1, 2021 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  6. Freakzilla

    Freakzilla UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    Thank you, this is what I'm saying, it isn't definitive. How do they know the value of the item? Anyone could put a low value and they'd never know. I see nowhere on the form for the EORI number.
     
    Posted: Jan 1, 2021 By: Freakzilla Member since: Jun 28, 2015
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  7. Freakzilla

    Freakzilla UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    And normal letters aren't big enough to fit the CN22 on
     
    Posted: Jan 1, 2021 By: Freakzilla Member since: Jun 28, 2015
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  8. wolfluecker

    wolfluecker UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    Letters and documents are not required to have custom declarations attached. They are for goods leaving the country.

    There definitely is a field for the EORI on forms CN22 and CN23. I completed one myself for a personal parcel just the other day.

    There is a lot information on the Royal Mail website about sending items abroad, whether you are a personal or business customer.
     
    Posted: Jan 1, 2021 By: wolfluecker Member since: Aug 9, 2006
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  9. Freakzilla

    Freakzilla UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    The latest CN22 form on the Royal Mail website dated Jan 20 has no Eori field.
     
    Posted: Jan 1, 2021 By: Freakzilla Member since: Jun 28, 2015
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  10. wolfluecker

    wolfluecker UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    When you generate one through Click & Drop it does have more fields. Maybe the one generated via a non-business account doesn't show the EORI field either. That sample form is a year old as well, which is odd.
     
    Posted: Jan 1, 2021 By: wolfluecker Member since: Aug 9, 2006
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  11. Mr D

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    Not all click and drop items have a cn22 produced.

    I generally write the EORI on the package when exporting.
     
    Posted: Jan 1, 2021 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  12. Mr D

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    Indeed.
    It's like they do not want it.
     
    Posted: Jan 1, 2021 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  13. Mr D

    Mr D UKBF Legend Free Member

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    There are sometimes letter sized goods sent.
    I post some via the post office 3 or 4 times a year.
     
    Posted: Jan 1, 2021 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  14. wolfluecker

    wolfluecker UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    Posted: Jan 1, 2021 By: wolfluecker Member since: Aug 9, 2006
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  15. fc-ramon

    fc-ramon UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    As others have said you'll need a CN22 label (or CN23 if value £230+). If your using click and drop then it'll ask you whats the contents and value of the parcel and in the settings you can tell it to generate a CN22 automatically with your labels. Click and drop automatically also creates electronic customs information and sends it off to customs so its pre-adviced. This is why if your sending an untracked item to the abroad now with royal mail you'll still get a barcode with what looks like a tracking barcode.

    So you'll just need to make sure that you have a CN22 on it and make sure your sending electronic customers data off as its mandatory to do so from today
     
    Posted: Jan 1, 2021 By: fc-ramon Member since: Nov 6, 2020
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  16. Mr D

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    Yes, never seen one for Channel islands yet....
     
    Posted: Jan 1, 2021 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  17. Freakzilla

    Freakzilla UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    But what about if you're not click and drop? How do you upload the info? How would an every day person do this who is sending an item to a friend in Europe?
     
    Posted: Jan 2, 2021 By: Freakzilla Member since: Jun 28, 2015
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  18. Mr D

    Mr D UKBF Legend Free Member

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    Then you do not upload the info the people in the other country just then go on the paperwork you have provided. Plus spot checks of the items - maybe they open the package and check it.
    Perhaps delay it a week or two.
     
    Posted: Jan 2, 2021 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  19. Scottishgifts4u

    Scottishgifts4u UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Presumably you will have to include the HS codes as well if you do postage online?

    I remember when that was introduced for parcels to the USA.

    What a pita that was, especially for businesses like ours who resell different kinds of goods.

    I’m glad I retired :)
     
    Posted: Jan 2, 2021 By: Scottishgifts4u Member since: Jul 6, 2017
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  20. wolfluecker

    wolfluecker UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    Yes, they always say "include HS codes and CO if known" which is a bit vague. The assumption is that customs processing will be quicker if you give them the codes. But we've had a shipment to Hong Kong stuck at Langley HWDC for ages now, although it has a CN22 with all that data on it. My hunch is that the attached invoice copies got lost. No way of contacting them though...

    I know exactly what you mean about the codes. We sell items that comprise of several parts with separate HS codes, so it's a real bind. You can save that data in Click&Drop but it's still a lot of work.
     
    Posted: Jan 2, 2021 By: wolfluecker Member since: Aug 9, 2006
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