PageSpeed Insights

Discussion in 'IT & Internet' started by Ian J, Oct 3, 2018.

  1. Ian J

    Ian J Factoring Specialist Full Member - Verified Business

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    I hadn't tested my site for a while so had a go today on the PageSpeed Insights website and was horrified to see that the optimisation for mobile devices was horribly low at 11/100 which was much lower than last time I checked.

    I noticed that it was testing http so I changed it to https whereupon the score increased to 43/100. Still not good but an improvement.

    Is this normal?
     
    Posted: Oct 3, 2018 By: Ian J Member since: Nov 6, 2004
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  2. justinaldridge

    justinaldridge UKBF Enthusiast Full Member

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    You'll get different results from different speed tests. I use Google's Lighthouse Chrome extension, which I find to be very good. By the way, your site is fast according to Lighthouse.

    Also, it's a good idea to look at the Site Speed reports under Behaviour in Analytics, as it's supposed to reflect actual page load speeds that users experience.
     
    Posted: Oct 3, 2018 By: justinaldridge Member since: Sep 26, 2013
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  3. Ian J

    Ian J Factoring Specialist Full Member - Verified Business

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    Many thanks Justin. I gave up looking at Google Analytics years ago as I don't understand any of it as it isn't designed for IT thickos like me :D
     
    Posted: Oct 3, 2018 By: Ian J Member since: Nov 6, 2004
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  4. WebDesires

    WebDesires UKBF Regular Full Member

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    Concerning http and https, if you for instance tested http but your site was on https the speed test factors in the redirect time, so this is normal. You should always test the EXACT url to a page.

    As for the speed scores, I did some tests myself and it is indeed very poor... It looks like one of the biggest problems is the response time which can indicate a poor server or poor server/site optimization.
     
    Posted: Oct 3, 2018 By: WebDesires Member since: Feb 23, 2016
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  5. Mike Hayes

    Mike Hayes UKBF Enthusiast Full Member

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    Perhaps something is behaving differently between the HTTP and HTTPS versions?

    I would just make sure HTTP is 301 redirected to HTTPS and implement HSTS, this is best for security and the score of your HTTP version will then be irrelevant.

    Personally, I don't pay too much attention to these things. They're just another tool in the box. Often the suggestions make sense and are best practices you should be following but then often the suggestions are unnecessary for your particular use case. So take the suggestions on board but don't get caught up in scoring a perfect '100' as some people try to unnecessarily chase.
     
    Posted: Oct 3, 2018 By: Mike Hayes Member since: Jan 7, 2016
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  6. WebDesires

    WebDesires UKBF Regular Full Member

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    No Mike, the score will factor in redirect time. Try any url that needs to redirect during the test, the score will be much lower.
     
    Posted: Oct 3, 2018 By: WebDesires Member since: Feb 23, 2016
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  7. Mike Hayes

    Mike Hayes UKBF Enthusiast Full Member

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    I did not say anything to the contrary?
     
    Posted: Oct 3, 2018 By: Mike Hayes Member since: Jan 7, 2016
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  8. WebDesires

    WebDesires UKBF Regular Full Member

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    This is what I'm responding to...
     
    Posted: Oct 3, 2018 By: WebDesires Member since: Feb 23, 2016
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  9. Mike Hayes

    Mike Hayes UKBF Enthusiast Full Member

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    I stand by that. It doesn't contradict what you've said regarding a redirection being responsible, they're just two different possible explanations. I did state below that if a 301 redirection is set up and HSTS implemented, the scoring of the HTTP version will then become irrelevant.
     
    Posted: Oct 3, 2018 By: Mike Hayes Member since: Jan 7, 2016
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  10. WebDesires

    WebDesires UKBF Regular Full Member

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    Ah you learn something new everyday, confirmed that HSTS does in fact cause no penalty to speed test. Good to know, never noticed!
     
    Posted: Oct 3, 2018 By: WebDesires Member since: Feb 23, 2016
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  11. Clinton

    Clinton UKBF Big Shot Full Member

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    @Ian J, I know what you mean about Analytics. But this bit is quite easy to check. As Justin says, just look at "Site Speed reports under Behaviour in Analytics"

    Also, there are tools like Pingdom and GTMetrix. They'll tell you where the delays are. I recommend you try both of them.
     
    Posted: Oct 3, 2018 By: Clinton Member since: Jan 17, 2010
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  12. Inva

    Inva UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Your website loads just fine. Any delays are from Google's external codes.
     
    Posted: Oct 3, 2018 By: Inva Member since: Aug 10, 2018
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  13. antropy

    antropy OpenCart Experts Full Member - Verified Business

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    Posted: Oct 4, 2018 By: antropy Member since: Aug 2, 2010
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  14. Ian J

    Ian J Factoring Specialist Full Member - Verified Business

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    I had hoped that it may have been a one off yesterday but PageSpeed Insights is still showing 43/100 for mobile optimisation and they are claiming that the server responded in 1.6 seconds which I assume is too slow.
     
    Posted: Oct 4, 2018 By: Ian J Member since: Nov 6, 2004
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  15. Inva

    Inva UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Your website is WP so it will always have some issues, but the specific site looks fairly light so i wouldn't worry. All these performance measuring tools are a bit dumb. For example you will get penalised in the score even if you have the smallest amount of script (say, 1kb) above the fold.

    The only measurement should be how long it takes for the page to load. What these tools say is irrelevant. You can see how fast it loads if you right click on the page, select "inspect" then "network" then hit ctrl+f5. Hit ctrl+f5 a few times and see the results.

    Keep in mind that these will be the results for you. People in other geographical locations may have slightly different results.
     
    Posted: Oct 4, 2018 By: Inva Member since: Aug 10, 2018
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  16. Martins-Adwords-Solutions

    Martins-Adwords-Solutions UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    Yes it is normal. You probable use SSL certificate and you redirect from http to https.

    However you can greatly increase speed by reducing image sizes (google pagespeed tool will provide them to you after testing (on the bottom of the page it says "download optimized content"), enable caching (use a plugin or module) and minification (a bit more advanced - but you can use automated minifications which mostly don't affect website behaviour.
     
    Posted: Oct 4, 2018 By: Martins-Adwords-Solutions Member since: Nov 28, 2015
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  17. Martins-Adwords-Solutions

    Martins-Adwords-Solutions UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    Google Pagespeed often reports server response too slow; while GTMetrics and Pingdom don't. It's best to check all three of them to see whether it is your problem or Google's problem.

    It only must be better then your competitors.
     
    Posted: Oct 4, 2018 By: Martins-Adwords-Solutions Member since: Nov 28, 2015
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  18. Dezvolta

    Dezvolta UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    @Ian J Nope you have optimize the site further by means of compressing your images and the other scripts which often takes more time to load.
     
    Posted: Oct 8, 2018 By: Dezvolta Member since: Oct 8, 2018
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  19. Breffni Potter

    Breffni Potter UKBF Contributor Full Member

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    With the content you have, should be nearly instant. After a bit of sanity checking your website averages at around 2.3 seconds, a bit slow, even when switching between pages, can take as long as 3 seconds, for mostly text only, its not great.

    I'm seeing fully developed sites from paid for websites of £5-8k come back with a load time of 5-8 seconds (which is absolute poop) - Speed is becoming much more of a key factor for sites.
     
    Posted: Oct 15, 2018 By: Breffni Potter Member since: Jun 4, 2018
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  20. Inva

    Inva UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Speed importance is overrated and over-hyped by people who sell website speed (we do that too btw - selling speed). But those claims which we hear all the time "74% of visitors will leave if your site does not open in 3 seconds" are blatant lies.

    The only thing that matters is how important the content is for the visitor. If the content is unimportant (cat videos) then website speed is important. If the content is important (some business information) then speed is unimportant.

    I will gladly wait 1 minute if on the other side lies useful information that helps me.
     
    Posted: Oct 18, 2018 By: Inva Member since: Aug 10, 2018
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