Min Wage increase

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  1. td2011

    td2011 UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Very delicate subject. I don't want to say anything that's going to invoke rage in anyone but I personally can't understand how some people can earn hundreds of thousands a year. I think there should be some limit to the amount a person can earn.
     
    Posted: May 7, 2011 By: td2011 Member since: Apr 6, 2011
  2. Dawg

    Dawg UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Why?
    What purpose would it achieve? What good would it do?

    (Apart from ruining the Premier League as none of the players would play in this country. But that's OK with me.)
     
    Posted: May 7, 2011 By: Dawg Member since: Feb 12, 2006
  3. Silky

    Silky UKBF Ace Full Member

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    We're not in a country of 90 million, nowhere near in fact.

    I completely fail to follow your logic and, like the previous poster, wonder what kind of business exactly you're in ?

    Siilky
     
    Posted: May 8, 2011 By: Silky Member since: Oct 29, 2007
  4. Silky

    Silky UKBF Ace Full Member

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    But Case 2 would in many situations be replacing Case 3 :someone who works for the NMW if not more, paying tax and claiming fewer if any benefits. Why on earth would any business recruit someone at the respectable level of salary if they could get away with £1 per hour, letting the government does the rest? What incentive does the employer have to ever progress those people from £1 an hour?

    Silky
     
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  5. hmmm

    hmmm UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    ok then 52million

    what exactly do you not understand?
     
    Posted: May 8, 2011 By: hmmm Member since: Apr 14, 2011
  6. hmmm

    hmmm UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    i ask the question what bad would it do?
     
    Posted: May 8, 2011 By: hmmm Member since: Apr 14, 2011
  7. Lee Jones Jnr

    Lee Jones Jnr UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Because they earn it.
     
    Posted: May 8, 2011 By: Lee Jones Jnr Member since: Dec 6, 2009
  8. Dawg

    Dawg UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    It would:


    • Make a number of very able people go abroad
    • Remove incentive to work to grow a business
    • Remove incentive to start a business
    • Remove the ability to make enough money to invest in other, new start up businesses
    • Lessen the tax take
    • Lessen discretionary spending at the top end, depriving British designers and workmen of income
    • Increase government influence as they would implement it, (and we all know how good they are at doing things).
    • Increase the black economy as people would work around it.

    But what good would it do?


    • Satisfy the jealousy of a few at the low end of the income scale
    • Umm, thats it.
    So;
    Against: make the economy smaller with fewer jobs, fewer start ups and smaller tax revenue.
    For: make a few people less jealous. (But they'd start up again at the £80,000 a year earners because jealous people are jealous people.)

    Apart from that it's a wonderful idea. Palm/face.
     
    Posted: May 8, 2011 By: Dawg Member since: Feb 12, 2006
  9. tejaone

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    also I think businesses are always against Min>>>.
     
    Posted: May 8, 2011 By: tejaone Member since: May 8, 2011
  10. Silky

    Silky UKBF Ace Full Member

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    Your argument that Dawg has effectively blown to pieces (amongst other things).

    So what exactly is your business hmmm?

    Silky
     
    Posted: May 8, 2011 By: Silky Member since: Oct 29, 2007
  11. Silky

    Silky UKBF Ace Full Member

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    Deleted - wrong thread. Must be lunch time, the old grey matter's slowing...
     
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  12. hmmm

    hmmm UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    those going abroad will be replaced .let them go.
    no incentives would be removed to work and make a business grow as people still need money
    no incentive to start a business will not happen as people would still not want to work for other people and having a business will still be a benefit just less pay ,not a lot less but still less
    the company would still make money enabling one to start another business with the company profit rather than there own profit
    there will be the same tax take as the money is still there nothing changes
    if you work around it and get caught then you go to jail
    the government are there to over see its all done properly to the law

    none of this is about jealousy at all thats just a mind thing which in reality is not in the thought of the majority...
    the £80,000 figure was not my figure so thats nothing to do with me
     
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  13. hmmm

    hmmm UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    no they dont earn it, there paid it
     
    Posted: May 8, 2011 By: hmmm Member since: Apr 14, 2011
  14. Dawg

    Dawg UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Well why don't we do it then? Micky Mouse socialism.
    Lets see: worked well for all those eastern block countries, for Russia, Cuba, Venezuala, Chile and China (until the Chinese grasped the nettle of reality.)

    And who better to tell the rest of us exactly how much we can earn, (and how much we can do most anything), than people like you? Or are we going to put all wage claims to the vote: that'll work well, voting on everything.

    Looking forward to it already.
     
    Posted: May 8, 2011 By: Dawg Member since: Feb 12, 2006
  15. hmmm

    hmmm UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    i guess it would need a tweek here and there as a list that small hardly covers everything.
    of course there would need to be incentive and gain but right now its not working either is it other wise we wouldnt have the need for a NMW......

    socialism capitalism and all these other words dont exist there made up names to put things into a box.

    all those countries are changing and will continue to do so,they watch others and will see what not to do....

    im not telling anyone what to do im discussing just as you are ,or are you telling us what to do...

    i doubt if anything i say will happen to do with those making huge amounts then claiming they cant afford just off £6 and hour for those putting the graft and sweat in.......what you are not seeing in what ive wrote earlier is the fact i dont believe someone who works for a company as a buyer of goods should be earning £10,000 more than someone working on the shop floor.

    i dont see why at all.

    those that own the company could possibly take a little less but in general i dont see why so called office based jobs tend to earn what they do .there is no lack of personnel for those positions ...there is a mind set that if you work in the office of company and not on the floor that there is some sort of higher status when in reality there isnt, the office job is no more needed than the floor the wage difference is to great and doesnt need to be
     
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  16. Dawg

    Dawg UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    You don't half talk absolute rubbish.
     
    Posted: May 8, 2011 By: Dawg Member since: Feb 12, 2006
  17. hmmm

    hmmm UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    no i dont............

    your mind doesnt realise that office staff are over paid .....simple as
     
    Posted: May 8, 2011 By: hmmm Member since: Apr 14, 2011
  18. Dawg

    Dawg UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    This is what I was directly referring to. It is a statement of such idiocy that even irony and humour can't deal with it.

    I'm coming round to the view, perhaps behind trend, that you are a time wasting troll.
     
    Posted: May 8, 2011 By: Dawg Member since: Feb 12, 2006
  19. hmmm

    hmmm UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    why ?

    because i think different?

    if you want to serperate things that really shouldnt be as neither one or the other is completely satisfactory to the needs of a nation.....
    they both have good and bad points so seperating them does nothing but cause divide.....

    those words need eliminating and not even brought up in convo when trying to deal with a whole nation............
    its what is holding us back...

    to have an idea then put into a box and call it something that the majority of the land doesnt even know what it means is pointless and just a way of using the us and them ...its pointless


    i dont not believe one bit that a capitalist total disagrees with everything that a socialist agrees with ,vice vers, and if they say the do then there lying as how could one possibly be totally correct in everything...so for that one thing alone its pointless to have those words

    go out and ask 100 "normal" people what exactly those words mean and imo you will get plenty of blank faces.........
     
    Posted: May 8, 2011 By: hmmm Member since: Apr 14, 2011
  20. sirearl

    sirearl UKBF Legend Free Member

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    Afraid we live in a topsy turvy society.

    Office staff are in general support for the people who make things happen.

    As far as I know no one ever ate anything grown in an office.:)

    Earl
     
    Posted: May 8, 2011 By: sirearl Member since: Apr 23, 2007
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