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Discussion in 'IT & Internet' started by safetynut, Nov 4, 2011.
I can't believe how quickly you reply slagging it off. What has Apple ever done to you?
You, by way of believing Apple, have tried posting statements bordering on blatant lies. It's a common tactic of Apple WWDC conferences.
You must of heard of the "reality distortion field".
The RDF was said by Andy Hertzfeld to be Steve Jobs' ability to convince himself and others to believe almost anything with a mix of charm, charisma, bravado, hyperbole, marketing, appeasement, and persistence.
Also, I have to say, it's a childish to end with "What has Apple ever done to you"..
What have I posted that is lies?
Yes I have heard of the RDF, I've read the Jobs autobiography. I find it interesting that you have spent so much time to really learn up on a company you dislike.
I'm interested in Apple because I like their products. But if you don't like the products why spend time researching it?
It's because they are worried about their jobs and positions. They don't like it because of that. If they were clever enough they could do the high-end IT stuff, but many are not - simples
The 'IT industry' forget that many everyday users don't want to be bogged down in all the computer guff, they don't use computers because that is their job, they use computers to do their job and just want to get on with it. Whilst the 'IT industry' will lose all those lovely service calls of defrags and re-installs and other useless by products forced on us by MS
I'm off now byeee
Sorry, it's not about disliking Apple or their products, it's actually more about Mac users who don't really understand computers but wish to speak on a technical level about which OS/Computer is best - based on which is more shiny.
I hear so many things from Apple users which make me cringe - Use a Mac and you don't need AV... Use a Mac - it just works... etc etc etc...
Wait until you start supporting the people who have malware infesting their machine, or when they come to you saying "It's broke I don't know why"...
People who like Apple products, who liked Steve Jobs, buy into their advertising and marketing 100%... But you should be gracious enough to admit where it doesn't live up to expectations, and you shouldn't give others false hopes.
In this area, Windows users are much more on the level, but some mac user's are up there with Linux Zealots.
Adore the fanbois bleat: "whats Apple ever done to you"?
Well, there's Original Sin.
I have only ever spoken about my experience with them, I've allowed family and friends to use my equipment and to a man (or woman) they've said how much they prefer it to windows.
My father, never got on with his PC, he was forever getting viruses, registry problems, he got a Mac 18 month ago and has never looked back. I've only ever had to set his mail up for him. So for him it just works.
For me, I've said why I prefer them. More than once.
So I will ask again, where have I BLATANTLY lied?
What was he doing with it? .... My Father - who has no idea about computers and prefers pen & paper, manages to use his PC and laptop with hardly any support - the odd occasion he asks how to do something, but I can't remember the last time he broke anything.
Registry problems? I mean honestly... If you have these problems on Windows, you won't just find everything works on a Mac - you just won't. It's so simple to fix registry errors (That rarely happen anyway!) that this is a joke to bring up.
If you get viruses and malware on Windows (the vast majority is malware - not viruses), the chances are you'll get them on Mac's, the only difference is you probably won't ever know, because you don't have AV installed.
Here is what I said.
"You, by way of believing Apple, have tried posting statements bordering on blatant lies. It's a common tactic of Apple WWDC conferences."
In relation to you posting Growth Figures without any real context.
Well it didnt take long to sink to a slanging match, almost as fast as a discussion on immigration in the UK.
As i said, i run pc's at work and have done for many years, they are generally ok but as new OS's come out they get worse and worse, far too many bells and whistles, software is too bloated. I switched to mac at home solely because i was sick of the pc bombing out with blue-screens back in the days of the 486cpu etc. That was the most sensible switch i ever made, NONE of the other apple items i have were bought because i love Steve Jobs OR because they were shiny! They were bought to fill a gap or to perform a task, based on the fact that reliability was a given, i have no negative things to say about them because nothing bad has occurred yet.
Setup is a doddle, using them is intuitive, unlike a pc, where the GUI is clunky and bulky and the security model is a nightmare when it comes to domain networking.
why so many people still love windows not Mac?
But they wouldn't go to you would they?
They would go to an Apple store or seller like Stormfront etc.
I think I've hit the nail on the head
Na, of course not... I've only done it for years - I know nothing. Honestly, what is the point of this post?
Apple's in-store support is very good, but if you think everyone wants to go to an Apple store you're very much mistaken. Not least the fact the nearest store to here is in Milton Keynes - about 25 miles away.
Here's what McDonalds give users trying to set up Wifi
I have 2 within 5/6 miles - that may be the difference.
Yup, corner store seller of PC bits and bobs, but can't do Apple stuff and knows the support is not as needed ( some is, they are not perfect ). So they can see their business dwindling if people switch.
I've just replaced the headset jack in an iPod. I am now a qualified Apple support engineer. (So what if the steel case is now a bit buckled - the spare part only cost £3.99 inc p&P)
I haven't worked out why the iPad's browser keeps crashing with the new 5.0.1 software though. (I didn't get the iPad at first, now you couldn't wrench it from my hands with a crowbar.)
lol... Your a joker I'll give you that. But you're factually wrong on all counts. Apple is actually a growing market for support. Also, Apple users are normally willing to pay more than those using Windows... But hey, what do you know? You're just trying to sound clever.
wow mancuiancreative you come across as a complete typical fanboy.... 'What has Mac ever done to you?'... really?
The mac vs pc poster is clearly made by a mac fanboy trying to prove how Mac user are trendy and cool and PC users are nerds and the mcdonalds poster does not show the correct procedure for connecting to a wireless network for either winXP or Vista... again clearly made by someone who uses a Mac and doesn't know how to use Windows.
Your comments are quite laughable really and you're the sort of fanboy even Mac users are embarrassed about.
I do a free neighbours tech support service as a hobby but since most of them have now upgraded to windows 7 (new PCs too) I don't get called anymore. Windows 7 mostly 'just works' too - so long as the hardware has enough grunt.