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Discussion in 'General Business Forum' started by bluenun, Jun 25, 2016.

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  1. john1989

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    @Scott-Copywriter you never did answer this.

    I'm genuinely interested to hear what you think our voters aught to do?
     
    Posted: Jul 3, 2016 By: john1989 Member since: Jan 1, 1970
  2. Newchodge

    Newchodge UKBF Big Shot Free Member

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    Our voters aught (or ought) to do nothing.

    The vote has been held. It is for the politicians to take the next step. No voter can do anything now.
     
    Posted: Jul 3, 2016 By: Newchodge Member since: Nov 8, 2012
  3. MBE1

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    I agree he would have carried on arguing for the UK to leave, what he would not have done was to ask for another vote on the spot or argue the vote should not count because too many people had good/poor education, high/low earnings, racist/ non racist undertones etc. The remainers bitterness has truly split the country with such poor attacks on Brexiters, I know of many people who have took many people off their social media due to the accusations being thrown around. Not myself, since I don't do social media myself.

    Keep clinging to this hope, IF Parliment did decide to vote against the peoples wishes then they would be replaced very quickly, I don't think ANY decent numbers of MP's are brave enough to try it myself, it would lead to a constitutional crisis IMO. I won't bother arguing the legal case, for the average man on the street they voted to leave the EU, for parliment to ignore them it would be at their peril, why do you think all apart from a couple of MP's have publicly stated it must be carried through? MP's might not be totally honest, but few are as stupid as we would like to believe.

    The resulting demonstrations if MP's voted to remain would make the recent remainers and poll tax demonstrations pale into insignificance IMO, the UK public believes in democracy to it's core and will show that if required.
     
    Posted: Jul 4, 2016 By: MBE1 Member since: Jun 1, 2012
  4. japancool

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    Well, Osbourne has just announced that he's going to cut corporation tax to 15%, which is excellent news. He needs to follow that up with a VAT rate cut as well.
     
    Posted: Jul 4, 2016 By: japancool Member since: Jul 11, 2013
  5. Newchodge

    Newchodge UKBF Big Shot Free Member

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    Great. Resulting in more austerity for those who can't afford it. Or using up all our EU contributions before we've got them back.

    Where is the money to come from to do this?
     
    Posted: Jul 4, 2016 By: Newchodge Member since: Nov 8, 2012
  6. john1989

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    The changes to dividend tax?
     
    Posted: Jul 4, 2016 By: john1989 Member since: Jan 1, 1970
  7. Pish_Pash

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    New companies setting up in the UK because a 15% corp tax this makes us pretty attractive....that's the whole point of reducing corporation tax - look at Ireland.
     
    Posted: Jul 4, 2016 By: Pish_Pash Member since: Feb 1, 2013
  8. japancool

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    Well, the yield on 10 year treasury bonds has never been lower, so it's cheaper to borrow, and he's also scrapped the surplus target, so no more austerity should be necessary. And if it has the effect of attracting more investment and companies to set up here, that should increase government revenues.
     
    Posted: Jul 4, 2016 By: japancool Member since: Jul 11, 2013
  9. Swisaw

    Swisaw UKBF Ace Full Member

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    This tax cut may only help to stop exsting companies leaving UK if Brexit implemented. Any new company established has to compete only in Uk market, which may become heavily purchase power-starved. To compensate for this tax cut, the chancellor has to cut the budgets of NHS, education, welfare and many other social, economic and educational supports. This reduces purchasing power of UK market a lot, which discourages new and overseas new business to risk investment.
     
    Posted: Jul 4, 2016 By: Swisaw Member since: Sep 24, 2010
  10. Pish_Pash

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    That's not the intention of making corporation tax lower....it's to attract new companies - like I say it worked for Ireland (think Google, Dell etc.)
     
    Posted: Jul 4, 2016 By: Pish_Pash Member since: Feb 1, 2013
  11. japancool

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    Err... no. UK companies compete in markets outside the EU all the time.
     
    Posted: Jul 4, 2016 By: japancool Member since: Jul 11, 2013
  12. ShirleyM

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    Don't forget, we already have some of the lowest employment taxes in the EU, which may be the reason why companies set up here rather than France or Germany.
     
    Posted: Jul 4, 2016 By: ShirleyM Member since: May 5, 2016
  13. atmosbob

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    Farage resigns!

    So we have 3 leadership fights all at once. Reminds me of number 11 buses.
     
    Posted: Jul 4, 2016 By: atmosbob Member since: Oct 26, 2009
  14. Ian J

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    I think he probably knows that UKIP is a busted flush now as there is nowhere else for it to go
     
    Posted: Jul 4, 2016 By: Ian J Member since: Nov 6, 2004
  15. john1989

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    I still think UKIP has a place in UK politics.

    It's main aim was to get a referendum on the table. It now needs a bit of an overhaul to take it to the next level.
     
    Posted: Jul 4, 2016 By: john1989 Member since: Jan 1, 1970
  16. Ian J

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    I'm not so sure as UKIP gained popularity based on it's anti immigration stand and due to the force of personality of it's leader.

    With Farage gone and Brexit agreed I can't see UKIP doing anything but dwindle away under the leadership of Carswell or Hamilton or whichever other lame duck takes over
     
    Posted: Jul 4, 2016 By: Ian J Member since: Nov 6, 2004
  17. Ian J

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    If there is a leadership election in the Labour party and Corbyn wins again I wonder if the Liberal party will make overtures to the centre and right of the Labour party to join forces to form a creditable alternative to the Labour lefties
     
    Posted: Jul 4, 2016 By: Ian J Member since: Nov 6, 2004
  18. atmosbob

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    Probably.

    Off topic but I think that all the UK political parties are ignoring what should be their biggest policy; dealing with the massive disparity between the poor areas of the country and the rich. The UK has 9 of the 10 deprived regions in Northern Europe. This disparity leads to low expectations for health, education and jobs. We are very good at boasting that we are one of the richest countries in the world but we do not spend enough making sure that everyone benefits.
     
    Posted: Jul 4, 2016 By: atmosbob Member since: Oct 26, 2009
  19. KM-Tiger

    KM-Tiger UKBF Legend Full Member - Verified Business

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    Absolutely agree, and interesting to see what Andrea Leadsom has to say about that.

    And believe it or not there are people within UKIP who would like to see more social justice. Sometimes referred to as the Red UKIPers. Now the referendum has gone, I think that's where UKIP's focus will move to.
     
    Posted: Jul 4, 2016 By: KM-Tiger Member since: Aug 10, 2003
  20. ShirleyM

    ShirleyM UKBF Regular Free Member

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    I've just had a quick peek on social media and the UKippers are still loyal providing Carswell doesn't get the top job. They want Nuttall or Woolfe.
     
    Posted: Jul 4, 2016 By: ShirleyM Member since: May 5, 2016
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