Is this gross misconduct

Discussion in 'Employment & HR' started by pentel, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. Newchodge

    Newchodge UKBF Big Shot Free Member

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    If you mean NOT signing to say that, it doesn't matter - unless you object you are taken to have (read, understood and ) accepted.
     
    Posted: Jan 11, 2019 By: Newchodge Member since: Nov 8, 2012
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  2. Mr D

    Mr D UKBF Legend Free Member

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    Seems pointless requiring staff to sign then.
     
    Posted: Jan 12, 2019 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  3. fisicx

    fisicx It's Major Clanger! Staff Member

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    I could give you a book on quantum mechanics and you could sign to say you have read it but that doesn't mean you understand what you have read.

    It follows that you can sign to say you have read a document and agree to abide by the terms of a document but you can't expect people to sign to say they understand a document.

    Knowledge and understanding are not the same thing.

    I know I have to keep off the grass but I don't understand why I have to keep off the grass
     
    Posted: Jan 12, 2019 By: fisicx Member since: Sep 12, 2006
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  4. Lucan Unlordly

    Lucan Unlordly UKBF Ace Free Member

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    'I know I have to keep off the grass but I don't understand why I have to keep off the grass'..

    Depends what sort of grass, man ? ;)
     
    Posted: Jan 22, 2019 By: Lucan Unlordly Member since: Feb 24, 2009
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  5. Petr Gogolin

    Petr Gogolin UKBF Contributor Full Member

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    If the person isn't paid to browse holiday sites, then why even debate the question? Ofc, have a conversation about it with him/her first, but be ready to let go of the worker. I wouldn't expect people with such manners to be the best ones you want on your team.
     
    Posted: Jan 23, 2019 By: Petr Gogolin Member since: Apr 28, 2017
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  6. pentel

    pentel UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Update: had a meeting to commence investigations as to what was going on and why, suspended employee on full pay while investigations were being carried out.

    2 days later employee resigned.

    3 weeks later we know why they resigned.
     
    Posted: Feb 11, 2019 By: pentel Member since: Mar 12, 2011
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  7. fisicx

    fisicx It's Major Clanger! Staff Member

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    And the reason was?
     
    Posted: Feb 11, 2019 By: fisicx Member since: Sep 12, 2006
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  8. Higgsy

    Higgsy UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    Cliffhanger... I've got the popcorn out!
     
    Posted: Feb 11, 2019 By: Higgsy Member since: Oct 1, 2018
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  9. pentel

    pentel UKBF Regular Free Member

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    While the holiday searches was going on checks on production weren't happening..... Turns out the checks should really have been done, LOTS of rework.
     
    Posted: Feb 11, 2019 By: pentel Member since: Mar 12, 2011
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  10. carl.atkinson

    carl.atkinson UKBF Regular Free Member

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    I think that the issue of an IT Policy is a bit of a red herring. In a perfect world, you would have a good policy which would preclude this type of behaviour. But in the absence of such a policy there is the question of "theft of time" - i.e. your employee is being paid to come into work to undertake their work duties and not to use the internet for personal research. Any decision that you make would need to be consistent with the approach that you have used in the past to deal with similar issues.
     
    Posted: Feb 14, 2019 By: carl.atkinson Member since: Jul 14, 2014
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