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We had ours delivered and we have been using it for about a week now. I love it!
Anyone else using one?
I am not the most technical person and find technology is sometimes a little beyond me but the iPad is absolutely fantastic! It has already replaced my mobile laptop which comes on holiday with us which will save room in the car.
I don't own an iPhone so this is all new to me. I feel like a child on Christmas Day!
Barbara
Its been a while since it came out, but I still cannot figure out whats the purpose of it/target market? Reading books or checking email? If its meant to be for email - I wouldn`t carry 10" thing for emails - my Palm Pre does the job great.
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Me neither.
I had a play with one and it was very cool, but it doesn't actually serve any purpose, or replace anything else I already have :|
It's a product sold on 'cool' alone. Which means it's still a good product of course, apple make money. Users look cool.
But can anyone tell me one thing that it does that you can't do better on equipment that already existed?
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I can't provide you with a definite answer to who the target market is (similar to how I cannot give you a definite answer to the target market of a Play Station 3, for example). What I can say, however, is that it does have a target market - which obviously goes without saying. And what I can furthermore say is that it does have functionality and purpose, to a greater extent but also including emailing and reading books - which I also was under the impression goes without saying. (On a side note if emailing and reading ebooks is all you think the iPad is capable of doing, well, really, you clearly haven't ever had the privilege of using one, and/or it would appear to me to not contain imagination to the countless possibilities of such devices or that of new technology hitting the market.)
It may have been appropriate, wise and foresightful to lambast the iPad's position within the grander 'scheme of things' and to furthermore question its target audience as well as its chances of success before it had launched; but now, after its apparent and obvious success, questioning its target audience and wondering in the point of the iPad existing at all is a rather silly question, in my opinion. If only because we're posting on a business forum.
It may have been appropriate, wise and foresightful to lambast the iPad's position within the grander 'scheme of things' and to furthermore question its target audience as well as its chances of success before it had launched; but now, after its apparent and obvious success, questioning its target audience and wondering in the point of the iPad existing at all is a rather silly question, in my opinion. If only because we're posting on a business forum.
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None of that helps me understand I'm afraid! I have used it, I am a massive techno-geek and I am aware of its capabilities. But it can't email better than a similar sized net-book with outlook (with a physical and tactile keyboard). It could be used as a reader, but it's screen relies on a back-light which is not the best solution for an hours reading. And even if it were, I don't struggle to read my iPhone in bed or watch iPlayer on it etc.
I was hoping for an example of how it could be used as a better alternative to the combination of iPhone and laptop I carry currently.
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Techno-geeks are not the target audience of the iPad.
It's aimed at people with disposable income who don't know a lot about computers, for travellers, for sales demonstrations, for watching movies in bed, for playing games (this is where it has a massive future), for lying on the coach watching TV while chatting on FaceBook or surfing the web, in the kitchen to read recipes, for educational purposes, as well as reading ebooks (I agree the screen isn't perfect as an e-reader but most people don't see it that way).
You probably don't see the point in it, just as you probably don't see the point in spending £1200 on a MacBook Pro but I can assure you many people do see the point in both the iPad and the MacBook Pro and it doesn't necessarily mean they are logical points. It all comes down to desire rather than need (in reality we don't need anything in the modern world) and at its base they are cool things. That's all that really matters, the iPad is cool therefore it has a place in the market, it has functionality and it will sell.
It's aimed at people with disposable income who don't know a lot about computers, for travellers, for sales demonstrations, for watching movies in bed, for playing games (this is where it has a massive future), for lying on the coach watching TV while chatting on FaceBook or surfing the web, in the kitchen to read recipes, for educational purposes, as well as reading ebooks (I agree the screen isn't perfect as an e-reader but most people don't see it that way).
You probably don't see the point in it, just as you probably don't see the point in spending £1200 on a MacBook Pro but I can assure you many people do see the point in both the iPad and the MacBook Pro and it doesn't necessarily mean they are logical points. It all comes down to desire rather than need (in reality we don't need anything in the modern world) and at its base they are cool things. That's all that really matters, the iPad is cool therefore it has a place in the market, it has functionality and it will sell.
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Thats exactly what I said though! Desire, or as I put it, 'cool' factor. That is the reason to buy an iPad.
I take on board that it's a convenient way to browse on the train or play games on the sofa, but then so is the iPhone. I use my iPhone all the time to do those things.
The problem is I wouldn't be able to take an iPad anywhere and everywhere as easily as I can the iPhone. And even with an iPad, I would still need to carry a phone as well. So my choice is between an iphone which does everything. Or an ipad as well, which does some of the things better as it has a larger screen etc.. But is needed as well as a phone, so for each pro I can see an equal con.
This is the problem, for a tech product to have a real value beyond cool it has to make things better, it has to solve a problem whilst also leading the way to a future where more is possible than before.
So I'm still stuck at thinking this is just cool alone.
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This was mentioned in another thread regarding iPad uses. It was the only example then as well!
I can imagine a load of thin spectacle wearing design trendies sat round a table passing iPads to one another
And it does make sense in that setting as it is a stylish way of displaying what is hopefully a stylish design draft!
But still, this comes down to the cool factor. It's not as if passing a laptop round would fail to achieve the same. Or simply, a huge great Plasma tv which tends to add a certain gloss to any image normally viewed on a computer screen.
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DotNetWebs
...I can imagine a load of thin spectacle wearing design trendies sat round a table passing iPads to one another
Or Councillors:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7922502/Council-plans-to-spend-40000-on-iPads.html
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Dotty
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Or Councillors:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7922502/Council-plans-to-spend-40000-on-iPads.html
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Dotty
For god's sake!
So the heavy laptop meant they had to print more than the lighter iPad did it? That does nothing to justify the saving at all.
And as for productivity. There is no way they will be able to type half as fast on a touchscreen as on a laptop keyboard.
This is a case of arguing economic saving in order to get ones mits on a new gadget.
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DotNetWebs
Here's a interesting post for you:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/
See also:
http://paidcontent.co.uk/article/419-bbc-html5-is-not-ready-for-video-and-sailing-off-course/
Yes I know you have your iPlayer Apps etc but there is still much Flash content on the BBC and millions of other sites that is being denied to iPad users by Steve Jobs' anti-Flash position.
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Dotty
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Quite. Flash is used equally as much to present content as it is to make a few anaimated buttons or banners. What about pure flash sites for instance.
I would also go as far as to say the stylish trendy person that buys an ipad, is probably more likley to visit the types of sites that use a lot of flash. For instance, clothing and fashion related sites, most design company sites I see are heavy or all flash, sites that allow you to customise products often use flash.
So in a way, the perfect customer of those sites that try to be stylish and flashy by 'using flash' can't see half the sites as they were flash enough to buy an ipad that can't (won't!) do flash :|
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Can't say i have noticed or missed flash when using my ipad
I have enjoyed mine and mostly use it as trade shows and for travelling. Its superb. I can watch films, listen to music, read many books and do all the work and e-mailing i need to in a small, compact package.
Its brilliant, for me.
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Mini iPad on the way?
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Te...Gadget_Will_Be_Launched_In_Time_For_Christmas
John
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Te...Gadget_Will_Be_Launched_In_Time_For_Christmas
John
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This was mentioned in another thread regarding iPad uses. It was the only example then as well!
I can imagine a load of thin spectacle wearing design trendies sat round a table passing iPads to one another
And it does make sense in that setting as it is a stylish way of displaying what is hopefully a stylish design draft!
But still, this comes down to the cool factor. It's not as if passing a laptop round would fail to achieve the same. Or simply, a huge great Plasma tv which tends to add a certain gloss to any image normally viewed on a computer screen.
You can't see the wood for the trees.
If I'm pushed for time in a meeting room with 2 hours worth of decisions to be made in an hour slot, 10 minutes waiting for someone to set up a projector / find a charger / connect to the network / whatever other technical problems arise have a great impact on the days business.
The Apple UI is renowned for it's dumb ease of use. Having an iPad absorb this risk has been a great advantage to us so far. It's plug and play to the max, usability and ergonomics are what the product is all about but if you think that's just cool factor that's your call
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How do you do that with your laptop? When I look at emails on my laptop I use webmail so that when I fire up my PC they'll come through to it.
Back to the OP - I had a look at one in an Apple store a week or so ago, impressed, liked it, but could only really (for me) put it in the toy/entertainment/fashion status symbol bracket - if anything, it'd make me less efficient as it would be a constant distraction!
Jeff
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DotNetWebs
Will be trialling one from next week. I'll just put it on the R&D budget!
Here's a Q. If I'm on the road and I receive email, how would I get said emails back onto my PC (like I do with my laptop)? Or is IMAP the only way?
If using a POP 3 client just tick the "leave copy of email on server" option (or whatever the MAC equivalent says)
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Dotty
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