Help Importing FOB inland port

Discussion in 'International Business' started by Omar78, Jan 26, 2018.

  1. Omar78

    Omar78 UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Hi,

    I've purchased an embroidery machine from China. As I'm based in Birmingham the supplier has put Birmingham as the destination port. So it will be Ningbo to Birmingham. I asked for FOB.

    I questioned the supplier that there is no port in Birmingham but they insisted there was ..im just worried I'm going to get stung with additional charges.

    Is it possible to have FOB from a sea port to a city??

    Don't know who else to ask!
     
    Posted: Jan 26, 2018 By: Omar78 Member since: Jan 26, 2018
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  2. Mr D

    Mr D UKBF Legend Free Member

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    Coming by boat or plane?
     
    Posted: Jan 26, 2018 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  3. Omar78

    Omar78 UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Sea..its a large item 300kg
     
    Posted: Jan 26, 2018 By: Omar78 Member since: Jan 26, 2018
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  4. GraemeL

    GraemeL Pain in the neck? Full Member - Verified Business

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    If you have FOB pricing then it is up to you to arrange the freight.
     
    Posted: Jan 26, 2018 By: GraemeL Member since: Sep 7, 2011
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  5. MY OFFICE IN CHINA

    MY OFFICE IN CHINA UKBF Big Shot Full Member

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    Get in touch with a UK forwarder (there are a number on this forum) and request door to door quotes.

    If you are relying on your supplier to make the shipping arrangements, you will be in for a surprise (actually, probably a shock).

    Your shipment will arrive in Felixstowe port.
     
    Posted: Jan 27, 2018 By: MY OFFICE IN CHINA Member since: Nov 16, 2011
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  6. Maple Sourcing

    Maple Sourcing UKBF Regular Full Member

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    Factory quotes in "FOB", it means they are only responsible to send the products to vessel, it's up to you (and your forwarder) where the vessel is up to. Consult an experienced forwarder for the best option for you.
     
    Posted: Jan 29, 2018 By: Maple Sourcing Member since: Oct 8, 2012
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  7. Import Expert

    Import Expert UKBF Regular Free Member

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    As above. If FOB terms then you need to arrange (and pay) for the goods to be shipped from Ningbo to the UK.
     
    Posted: Jan 29, 2018 By: Import Expert Member since: Feb 1, 2012
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  8. Tom Gardner

    Tom Gardner UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Double check that their interpretation of FOB is the same as posted here. Some exporters get confused with other terms.
     
    Posted: Jan 30, 2018 By: Tom Gardner Member since: Dec 9, 2017
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  9. Omar78

    Omar78 UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Well on my invoice it says FOB but the Bill of Lading states "Freight Prepaid" so I'm guessing its CIF or CFR.

    I've contacted a couple of freight forwarders but none can give me clearer picture on working out costs. Not sure what my options are now.
     
    Posted: Jan 30, 2018 By: Omar78 Member since: Jan 26, 2018
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  10. Tom Gardner

    Tom Gardner UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    That's unhelpful. Freight prepaid can sometimes be a case of the clerk who cut it, did a typo or was using a template where some fields are pre-completed and did not correct it. I see that you consider this to be a FOB movement but what does your contract say?
     
    Posted: Jan 30, 2018 By: Tom Gardner Member since: Dec 9, 2017
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  11. Omar78

    Omar78 UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    My proforma invoice says FOB. The forwarders I contacted both stated its no FOB once I gave them the bill of lading.
     
    Posted: Jan 30, 2018 By: Omar78 Member since: Jan 26, 2018
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  12. Tom Gardner

    Tom Gardner UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    I suspect that the forwarders are correct. BOLs on their own are not conclusive evidence. Strictly speaking to be valid FOB on it's own is not acceptable it should specify a location (Birmingham has a port, an airport, possibly your supplier has made a mistake as your purchase is coming by sea).
    Sorry but you are going to have to go back to your supplier to clear this up
     
    Posted: Jan 30, 2018 By: Tom Gardner Member since: Dec 9, 2017
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  13. Omar78

    Omar78 UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Well one of the forwarders is looking into it all for me. The bol states Ningbo to Felixstowe then onto Birmingham.

    Will wait and see what happens. Bottom line is I'm in for extra charges!
     
    Posted: Jan 30, 2018 By: Omar78 Member since: Jan 26, 2018
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  14. Tom Gardner

    Tom Gardner UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Extra charges are a certainty! If you can find out, ASAP, who the forwarder is you might be able to get some control of the charges
     
    Posted: Jan 30, 2018 By: Tom Gardner Member since: Dec 9, 2017
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  15. Omar78

    Omar78 UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    I have contacted them. They told me their Ningbo Office sets the UK Rates and charges. They can't confirm charges yet as they are awaiting the document from the Ningbo Office.

    I've emailed the Ningbo Office to find out costs..still waiting to hear back.
     
    Posted: Jan 30, 2018 By: Omar78 Member since: Jan 26, 2018
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  16. Tom Gardner

    Tom Gardner UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    I'd suggest that you tell them to forward a copy of of the documents to you before they make any Customs clearance. As its FOB then you are paying them so have a right to the documents (and as the clearance is in your name you will also require a copy of the declaration they make).

    Not sure if you have done this before so sorry if I'm telling you something you already know but double check the supporting documents against the SAD (formally know as a C88) to make sure that the details are correct.
    If in doubt post back here and help can be given
     
    Posted: Jan 30, 2018 By: Tom Gardner Member since: Dec 9, 2017
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  17. Omar78

    Omar78 UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    No I've not imported like this before.

    I'm going to email their Ningbo Office in the morning.

    Thanks for your advice
     
    Posted: Jan 30, 2018 By: Omar78 Member since: Jan 26, 2018
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  18. Import Expert

    Import Expert UKBF Regular Free Member

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    If you have a Bill of Lading already then it's almost certainly CIF/CFR (Freight prepaid) terms. Are the goods on the water already as this would indicate they are? If so unfortunately you will be hit with extra costs on arrival UK. If the supplier has agreed FOB and have shipped prepaid then I would be slightly wary of them. (They may be getting a kickback from the additional UK costs). If you want to email me over a copy I can take a look for you - [email protected]
     
    Posted: Jan 31, 2018 By: Import Expert Member since: Feb 1, 2012
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  19. GraemeL

    GraemeL Pain in the neck? Full Member - Verified Business

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    I can confirm that you can fully trust @Import Expert


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    Posted: Jan 31, 2018 By: GraemeL Member since: Sep 7, 2011
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