Grievance and Dismissal.

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  1. Newchodge

    Newchodge UKBF Big Shot Free Member

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    Yes, you can include future loss of earnings.
     
    Posted: Mar 3, 2018 By: Newchodge Member since: Nov 8, 2012
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  2. Malang Baba

    Malang Baba UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Eliza,

    I lost my Job.
    I worked there for over four years.

    As I already said,
    I can’t compromise my rights for reference.

    I know,
    My GOD is giving me food, not my employer.

    Secondly,
    I am a tough person, can manage my livelihood by tougher work.

    No need to beg from corrupt managements.
     
    Posted: Mar 3, 2018 By: Malang Baba Member since: Mar 2, 2018
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  3. Malang Baba

    Malang Baba UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Newchodge,

    Thanks a lot.

    Last Question.
    Do you think,
    If I add up Loss of future earning.
    I should add for
    One year
    Or
    Two years???

    Thanks.
     
    Posted: Mar 3, 2018 By: Malang Baba Member since: Mar 2, 2018
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  4. Newchodge

    Newchodge UKBF Big Shot Free Member

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    Given this is just the start of negotiations, I would go for 2 years. However, compensation awards are subject to a maximum, which is one year's gross pay.
     
    Posted: Mar 3, 2018 By: Newchodge Member since: Nov 8, 2012
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  5. Malang Baba

    Malang Baba UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Thanks a lot.....
     
    Posted: Mar 3, 2018 By: Malang Baba Member since: Mar 2, 2018
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  6. Malang Baba

    Malang Baba UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Hi All

    Just Quick Question,
    I received email from Tribunal today.

    Employment Judge has directed that I write as follows.
    This Case is listed on the basis that the only claim about 'Whistle Blowing' is that the claimant was dismissed. If this is not the correct basis, the claimant must notify the tribunal by 31/09/2018 in writing.

    Please can anyone explain, what is meaning of it.

    Thanks.
     
    Posted: Sep 21, 2018 By: Malang Baba Member since: Mar 2, 2018
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  7. Malang Baba

    Malang Baba UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Hi All

    I have another thread regarding my grievance and dismissal. But I will summarise here.
    I had a grievance against management. Later I was alleged for being sick abroad and shift swap etc, and finally dismissed.
    I have gone to Tribunal for unfair dismissal.

    Today I received this letter from Tribunal.

    Employment Judge has directed that I write as follows.
    This Case is listed on the basis that the only claim about 'Whistle Blowing' is that the claimant was dismissed. If this is not the correct basis, the claimant must notify the tribunal by 31/09/2018 in writing.

    Please can anyone explain, what is meaning of it.
    What should I write to them.

    Until now, I don't have any solicitor. So please guide me if anyone can.

    Thanks a lot.
     
    Posted: Sep 21, 2018 By: Malang Baba Member since: Mar 2, 2018
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  8. obscure

    obscure UKBF Ace Free Member

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    Sorry but you have given us no actual information as to what exactly happened or what the basis for your unfair dismissal claim is.
    1. What does "alleged for being sick" mean?
    2. What exactly was the nature of your grievance?
    3. What did management do about your grievance. How did they respond?
    4. What reason did they give for dismissal?
    5. What does any of this have to do with whistle blowing?
     
    Posted: Sep 22, 2018 By: obscure Member since: Jan 18, 2008
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  9. Newchodge

    Newchodge UKBF Big Shot Free Member

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    They want to know exactly what you are making the claim about. If your claim is that you were dismissed because you made a protected disclosure, then you should write a letter stating that. and do it early next week and well before 31 September, as that is a date that doesn't exist. If, as well as being dismissed, you claim they did something else to you, then say in your own words, what that was.
     
    Posted: Sep 22, 2018 By: Newchodge Member since: Nov 8, 2012
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  10. Newchodge

    Newchodge UKBF Big Shot Free Member

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    i have asked that this post be merged with your other post, as it is the same subject
     
    Posted: Sep 22, 2018 By: Newchodge Member since: Nov 8, 2012
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  11. Malang Baba

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    1. My Grievance was regarding one of our colleague was appointed on favouritism, and was getting paid for different post for over 6 months. When I raised the grievance, It was found that he / she was getting extra pay for the hours and times, person never worked for.
    Investigator advised to remove the Position and appoint the person to old post.
    This was done.
    But the management that was involved in paying more money covered up their payments.
    So, I took the Grievance to stage 2.
    In the meantime, I was dismissed and was informed that, I can no longer continue with the grievance, as I am no longer the employee.
    2. I went abroad, and was involved in an accident and was sick. When I returned, they started investigation alleging that all medical certificates r fake, hospital doesn't exist etc etc. these were main allegations.
    One allegation was that I swapped the shift for a day with my colleague after getting sick, when I knew, I wont be able to return on the date.
    During investigations, Last allegation of Shift Swap was only considered minor, as I did prove that I swapped the shift before travelling abroad. Most of the investigation was concerned about Medical Certificates.
    3. My Grievance was against 3 members of the Management.
    1st one suspended me,
    2nd one presented my case,
    & 3rd one was the chair of the Hearing.
    I was dismissed alleging all allegations to be true.
    4. In My Internal appeal, All allegations were struck out apart from the Shift Swap, and dismissal decision was approved only alleging last clause.
    5. Case is in Tribunal, and I am happy with the progress.
    Just received letter yesterday, and wanted to know the meaning of it.

    6. Allegation of Shift Swap stand, what exactly it is.
    I travelled abroad, and booked the return ticket for 1 day after my Annual Leave ending.
    To take that extra day, I swapped the shift with one of my colleague, before the travel.
    It was proved during investigations.
    But after my accident, other colleague became sick as well.
    and a third colleague called me that due to 2nd man sick, 3rd person will cover my shift.
    This call was not clear at all, and I was sick and was unable to do anything after that.
    This 3rd colleague sent email to management stating that I requested the shift swap.
    So, Management is taking his email to dismiss me.
    During investigations (I have transcript of meetings), at many stages investigator said that my conversation with 3rd colleague was through Text / WhatsApp Message.
    But never presented any of those messages as proof. I know, the final call from him was call, not text.

    7. My stance was from start that, this all case against me was due to the grievance against management. They targeted me, and finally dismissed me.

    Thanks.
     
    Posted: Sep 22, 2018 By: Malang Baba Member since: Mar 2, 2018
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  12. The Byre

    The Byre UKBF Ace Free Member

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    @Malang Baba, may I suggest that you hire Cyndy to hold your hand on this issue and guide you through this process. Your case and your presentation of your case is a bit of a mess for an outsider and an employment tribunal is a collection of outsiders, who have to fight their way through the fog of your confusion about the underlying legal issues involved.

    Remember that courts LOVE clarity!

    Unfortunately, most lay-protagonists allow themselves to drawn into pointless argumentative details (He said, she said, they said!) that only serve to make things totally unclear and weaken their own case.
     
    Posted: Sep 22, 2018 By: The Byre Member since: Aug 13, 2013
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  13. fisicx

    fisicx It's Major Clanger! Staff Member

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    @Malang Baba - the more I read the more confused I get. At some point you will need to pay for help as this all sounds very complicated. I'm not even sure why your sickness overseas is an issue as it happened while you were on leave.

    Get professional help with this - even if it's to just write the letters to the court.
     
    Posted: Sep 22, 2018 By: fisicx Member since: Sep 12, 2006
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  14. ethical PR

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    Or of course you can go back to ACAS or your local CAB and rely on the free advice they can offer.
     
    Posted: Sep 23, 2018 By: ethical PR Member since: Apr 19, 2009
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  15. Johnny.S

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    Posted: Oct 11, 2018 By: Johnny.S Member since: Feb 6, 2014
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  16. Newchodge

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    Posted: Oct 11, 2018 By: Newchodge Member since: Nov 8, 2012
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