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  1. DotNetWebs

    DotNetWebs UKBF Legend Full Member

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    And when Facebook decides to clamp down on this you will be in a good position.

    Facebook'a algorithms will in a millisecond be able to see the same information you have given us (and MUCH more). They will know that they are not 'real' fans at all.

    Regards

    Dotty
     
    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: DotNetWebs Member since: Feb 16, 2005
  2. bargainmania

    bargainmania UKBF Enthusiast Full Member

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    We have been working on getting this issue sorted. All the trials we did were pretty much successful. As i explained in pm the reason why this could be happening with fans who are not actually single parents. This we would simply have made up with more fans. As for non-uk, This simply SHOULD NOT have happened and is hopefully now fixed. I can only apologise for this happening and if you would rather have a FULL refund this will be issued straight away. As i have said we are working to sort this.

    Alistair

     
    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: bargainmania Member since: Apr 9, 2011
  3. JohnLocke1

    JohnLocke1 UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Have to say Alistair, with just 251 likes on your own bargainmania page your not exactly endorsing the whole idea of buying "likes" are you. Shouldn't you have 10,000's :|
     
    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: JohnLocke1 Member since: Apr 12, 2011
  4. JohnLocke1

    JohnLocke1 UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    A genuine question, could this actually have a detrimental effect on your business if people see you have "fans" that obviously don't have any interest in what you do. I'm thinking of loss of credibility as it would almost look like you have paid people to like your page!
     
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    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: JohnLocke1 Member since: Apr 12, 2011
  5. biglittlediscount

    biglittlediscount UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Add me too into the group! My page is - facebook.com/biglittlediscount.

    Thanks a bunch!
     
    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: biglittlediscount Member since: Mar 4, 2011
  6. MASSEY

    MASSEY UKBF Legend Full Member

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    No i disagree competely there.
     
    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: MASSEY Member since: Nov 29, 2009
  7. bargainmania

    bargainmania UKBF Enthusiast Full Member

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    Hi john

    As already explained in this thread mate. That page is a trial for the zencart on facebook and has had no fan work done on it at all.

    Alistair

     
    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: bargainmania Member since: Apr 9, 2011
  8. bargainmania

    bargainmania UKBF Enthusiast Full Member

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    I would not think it could have a detrimental effect as users only see a number.
    If the Business page owner was not updating on a regular basis then this is more likely to have the detrimental effect

    Alistair
     
    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: bargainmania Member since: Apr 9, 2011
  9. JohnLocke1

    JohnLocke1 UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    How is a webpage that is actually selling items a trial? You are apparently retailing from this page, even if it is trial why wouldn't you do any "fan work" to make the trial more productive and conclusive, especially as it's so easy to do with your scheme?
     
    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: JohnLocke1 Member since: Apr 12, 2011
  10. bargainmania

    bargainmania UKBF Enthusiast Full Member

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    The website is selling items. The facebook page is not as yet as it still needs finished and some more work done it

    Alistair
     
    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: bargainmania Member since: Apr 9, 2011
  11. DotNetWebs

    DotNetWebs UKBF Legend Full Member

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    I have explained this before (all IMO)

    I am a facebook [app] developer and can see the amount of data they have available for each profile.

    Because of the nature of the 'profile' and the way the data is largely binary (i.e they either like something or don't) and because of the way everything is connected (a.k.a "The Social Graph"), it is VERY easy to spot large-scale abuse.

    I reckon even I could right a basic algorithm!

    Sooner or late Facebook will take action.

    Regards

    Dotty
     
    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: DotNetWebs Member since: Feb 16, 2005
  12. Silky

    Silky UKBF Ace Full Member

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    Unless of course the Page owner uses the a facebook social plug in widget on their web site, which actually shows the people who like the page. We do this on our blog and it shows a random selection of our fans. Great for our current fan base - they're predominantly middle aged, middle class with kids, our target audience. Of the "new" fans however, I've had to delete one today who had a porn style picture as their profile, others simply don't fit. Paypal Latino or Lettings Mall also stand out a little from the crowd..

    Silky
     
    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: Silky Member since: Oct 29, 2007
  13. JohnLocke1

    JohnLocke1 UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    So this would suggest the people on bargainmania's network are in no way vetted, now that would be a worry, you could end up paying for 10,000 paedophile fans!!
     
    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: JohnLocke1 Member since: Apr 12, 2011
  14. bargainmania

    bargainmania UKBF Enthusiast Full Member

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    Unfortunately one of the networks that we are involved in has allowed some new websites through that have mucked up the system. This is being worked on right now and i am assured that all will be back to normal in a few days.
    This only effects our targeted fanbase and everyone that it effects has obviously been offered a full refund.

    Some have taken the full refund and some are waiting a few days to see what has happened.

    Until this is sorted we obviously will not be offering targeted fans for anyone

    Alistair

    Alistair
     
    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: bargainmania Member since: Apr 9, 2011
  15. MASSEY

    MASSEY UKBF Legend Full Member

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    Google algorithms are open to large scale abuse and they have the same tech as facebook if not better. So what makes you think facebook will spot algorithm abuse.

    It's not logical. Its like the seo white hatters that say "one day the black and grey hatters will come unstuck" in the mean time the grey and black hatters are making a financial killing...
     
    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: MASSEY Member since: Nov 29, 2009
  16. DotNetWebs

    DotNetWebs UKBF Legend Full Member

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    Simply because the potential abusers are WITHIN the Facebook network as opposed to EXTERNAL to the Google network.

    Think about it...

    Regards

    Dotty
     
    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: DotNetWebs Member since: Feb 16, 2005
  17. MASSEY

    MASSEY UKBF Legend Full Member

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    Well bargain mania has already proved that he can't deliver so it's not worth going in to :D
     
    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: MASSEY Member since: Nov 29, 2009
  18. Silky

    Silky UKBF Ace Full Member

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    Bargainmedia is working on it, never say never. In all fairness, some people are happy to buy numbers to get started, a page with only 20 fans looks a bit of a wilderness, add 500 to that and it starts to have more credibility and can be a platform on which the page owner can build their own community.

    Silky
     
    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: Silky Member since: Oct 29, 2007
  19. UKSBD

    UKSBD Not a real duck Staff Member

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    How on earth do people cope with lots of fans?

    I've been playing about a bit more with facebook this week and even with just my few likes it is time consuming to interact with people.
    It would be a full time job to run it properly.
     
    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: UKSBD Member since: Dec 30, 2005
  20. Esk247

    Esk247 UKBF Legend Free Member

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    exactly..the larger organisations place Social Media within the Marketing Department and have 2/3 or even 4 people maintaining a presence on Facebook and Twitter, reacting to information and customer enquiries. Then you will see it working..but it takes a whole heap of effort to get it going. Results are not immediate.
     
    Posted: May 4, 2011 By: Esk247 Member since: Oct 6, 2008
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