FACE COVERING FINE

momon121

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Hope everybody is well. Today I had a CPSO randomly visited my shop as I was outside near my van. The CPSO entered our shop and reminded the my colleague to wear the face as it’s a legal requirement. We have the normal COVID posters however after 15:00 I was informed my neighbouring shop keeper that two police officers were enquiring about and disclosed the fact that I have been breach of COVID. I’m guessing now I’ll be getting a visit from them and may expect a fine? Could I ask them just to give me warning? Seems a bit harsh to be issued with a fine if that’s the case
 

momon121

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It sounds like your colleague has been let off with a verbal warning. It might give them cause to check up on your shop in future, but I imagine you would have been told on the spot if they intended to issue a fixed penalty notice (only a court can impose a fine) or take the matter any further.
Yes it did appear as a verbal warning but no such warnings was given for consequential actions to take for failing to wear face masks. It was just a reminder that it was the current government law and that was the end of it
 
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Aniela

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Hi

Hope everybody is well. Today I had a CPSO randomly visited my shop as I was outside near my van. The CPSO entered our shop and reminded the my colleague to wear the face as it’s a legal requirement. We have the normal COVID posters however after 15:00 I was informed my neighbouring shop keeper that two police officers were enquiring about and disclosed the fact that I have been breach of COVID. I’m guessing now I’ll be getting a visit from them and may expect a fine? Could I ask them just to give me warning? Seems a bit harsh to be issued with a fine if that’s the case

Do they have video/photographic evidence of the non-mask wearing?

If not, don't worry about it. The second they mention a penalty notice/fine (if they do), just ask for the evidence and as they can not provide it, will not be able to do anything.

At the same time, if you're supposed to be wearing a mask and you know you should, but are not... it's not exactly harsh to expect a penalty notice/fine. ;)
 
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HostOX

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I am sure they would of given the fine on the spot rather than wait? You just cannot be sure and will have to keep an eye on the post.

I have been to a ton of shops where no staff have masks on.
 
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JEREMY HAWKE

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Dont worry about it
Just try not to wind them up and should you see them again walk over and say Hello and ask them how their days is going
Thats how I deal with this stuff
 
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Trevor Andrews

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    Hi

    Hope everybody is well. Today I had a CPSO randomly visited my shop as I was outside near my van. The CPSO entered our shop and reminded the my colleague to wear the face as it’s a legal requirement. We have the normal COVID posters however after 15:00 I was informed my neighbouring shop keeper that two police officers were enquiring about and disclosed the fact that I have been breach of COVID. I’m guessing now I’ll be getting a visit from them and may expect a fine? Could I ask them just to give me warning? Seems a bit harsh to be issued with a fine if that’s the case

    Why would you want a warning? You know the rules and you failed to abide by them. It’s like asking a police car to warn you if your speeding when you are roaring past other cars doing 90.

    Here in Spain the police would have fined us on the spot. Having caught Covid from U.K. holiday makers and having a shop here I have no sympathy.
     
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    Ian J

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    Here in Spain the police would have fined us on the spot. Having caught Covid from U.K. holiday makers and having a shop here I have no sympathy.

    How do you know that you caught it from UK holidaymakers?
     
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    JEREMY HAWKE

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    I bet they were from London, too.

    I know about these Londoners the locals here are fuming about them buying up property :):)

    One family of Londoners speak to each other in Norwegian and speak to us in excellent English with a Norwegian accent . Bloody Londoners :):)
     
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    I know about these Londoners the locals here are fuming about them buying up property :):)

    One family of Londoners speak to each other in Norwegian and speak to us in excellent English with a Norwegian accent . Bloody Londoners :):)

    there were Londoners on our common last week

    Driven all the way from Farnham, they had.
     
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    momon121

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    Do they have video/photographic evidence of the non-mask wearing?

    If not, don't worry about it. The second they mention a penalty notice/fine (if they do), just ask for the evidence and as they can not provide it, will not be able to do anything.

    At the same time, if you're supposed to be wearing a mask and you know you should, but are not... it's not exactly harsh to expect a penalty notice/fine. ;)
    To be honest I did have the mask, but as I nipped out to my van that’s closely parked near my shop the officer went inside my shop and so I followed in after that’s when he saw me without the mask on but it was on my chin just for a breather. Yes I agree masks should be worn since it’s mandatory
     
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    momon121

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    But you didn’t? Seems to me you are just trying to find an excuse for not wearing one. The police don’t want to take action, they just want shopkeepers to set a good example.
    That’s correct when I followed him into my shop I didn’t have it covering on my face. I know they are doing their job but seem strange to send two officers looking for me and at worse disclosing to other retailers what I have done without establishing any facts
     
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    momon121

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    Disclosing to other retailers is perhaps something you need to look at - are you certain it was not these other retailers who shopped you?

    there’s only 3 other retailers next to me and we all get along and my place is fully marked up with posters and sanitizer, however the retailer who shared this information always looks out for me and even showed me cctv footage of the two officers asking questions about me
     
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    That’s correct when I followed him into my shop I didn’t have it covering on my face. I know they are doing their job but seem strange to send two officers looking for me and at worse disclosing to other retailers what I have done without establishing any facts
    Bearing in mind that they have already vaccinated nearly half the adult population (which includes the vast majority at significant risk of serious illness), and that masks are not by any means the most effective method of preventing infection anyway, you would think PC Plod and his mate would have something better to do with their time.
    You have my sympathy if you have no choice. I like going to work to forget about all this Covid Cobblers...... I have a shop, but fortunately 95% of our T/O is mail order and we don't actually get that many customers "off the street". Furthermore most of our customers would just buy on click and collect (from outside the back of the shop) anyway, so if I get anyone trying to force me to wear a mask I'll just shut the shop.
     
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    Interestedobserver

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    Bearing in mind that they have already vaccinated nearly half the adult population (which includes the vast majority at significant risk of serious illness), and that masks are not by any means the most effective method of preventing infection anyway, you would think PC Plod and his mate would have something better to do with their time.
    You have my sympathy if you have no choice. I like going to work to forget about all this Covid Cobblers...... I have a shop, but fortunately 95% of our T/O is mail order and we don't actually get that many customers "off the street". Furthermore most of our customers would just buy on click and collect (from outside the back of the shop) anyway, so if I get anyone trying to force me to wear a mask I'll just shut the shop.

    Why bother with the shop full stop Justin?
     
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