Do you need a passport for a job?

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  1. Nord20

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    All true, but doesn't change the facts on the ground. If she wants that job, she needs a passport, end of story. She can yell about how unfair it is until the cows come home, but that won't get her the job.

    Like I said, the world isn't fair and if she thinks £80 for a passport is too much, she sure as hell isn't going to take them to a tribunal.
     
    Posted: Jan 24, 2014 By: Nord20 Member since: Mar 8, 2011
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  2. japancool

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    So long as they can prove that they are British citizens.
     
    Posted: Jan 24, 2014 By: japancool Member since: Jul 11, 2013
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  3. Newchodge

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    This whole thing is a complete nonsense.

    The idea that companies need to worry about race discrimination when asking for proof - the need for proof is, of itself, race discrimination as british people are allowed to work and non-british people may or may not be allowed to work.

    If a company demands more than the Borders Agency, or whoever is in charge at the time, requires, they should be exposed as either incompetent, as they cannot apply perfectly clear rules, or moneyist (!) as most people on low incomes neither need nor can afford a passport. JUST £80.00? If you are living on less than £80 per week for everything except housing costs, £80 for a passport that is unnecessary for its real purpose is ridiculous.
     
    Posted: Jan 24, 2014 By: Newchodge Member since: Nov 8, 2012
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  4. Newchodge

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    You have GOT to be joking. A friend got a job recently after a long time on the dole. He pointed out to the job centre that his fares to work, about 6 miles away, were around £5.00 per day, and he would not get paid for a month. Their response was to lend him £18.00. He spent more than an hour walking each way.
     
    Posted: Jan 24, 2014 By: Newchodge Member since: Nov 8, 2012
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  5. japancool

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    No, it's not ridiculous. How do you know someone is British? Do you get a tattoo on your head saying you're British when you're born?

    Could you tell that Ulrika Jonsson and Sandi Toksvig aren't British?
     
    Posted: Jan 25, 2014 By: japancool Member since: Jul 11, 2013
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  6. Newchodge

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    You miss the point. Government guidance on checking someone's right to work emphasises that this should not be done on racial grounds. But, if you are British you have an absolute right to work, so controls and checks are, of themselves, racist.
     
    Posted: Jan 25, 2014 By: Newchodge Member since: Nov 8, 2012
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  7. Steve Sellers

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    NOOOOOOOO I'm not JOOOKKKINNNGGG :p An hour each way!!!! WOW!!! Stop the press everyone, somebody get the guy a human rights lawyer and contact Peter Tatchell.

    One of my first jobs I had no driving licence and was skint(had been unemployed for about 6 weeks but I didn't claim dole - motivated me to get a job quicker). I walked for well over an hour each way to get to and from work (from one side of Lincoln to the other).

    Not surprised they told him to get on his bike.

    People in the third world walk for hours each day - just for water. I have no sympathy for your friend or the OP's mother. Look at this way - he saved £100 of his wages for the first month and no doubt if carries on will save the NHS money by not being obese. I mean this has all happened already - did his legs drop off? Did it do him any harm? Nooooooo I'm guessing.

    The job centre will pay for lots if you ask them and know how to ask. They have figures and quotas to meet you know. But having said all that this country is broke because everyone expects the government to wipe their asses! Have a generation of people who expect expect expect everything - Thanks Tony Blair.

    The world has mad and it saddens me how socialist "values" are even infecting employers. Sad day.
     
    Posted: Jan 25, 2014 By: Steve Sellers Member since: Aug 7, 2011
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  8. Newchodge

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    Don't quote selectively.

    The Job Centre WILL NOT pay for a passport.
     
    Posted: Jan 25, 2014 By: Newchodge Member since: Nov 8, 2012
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  9. Merchant UK

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    I would agree with Chris, I think its paranoia where employers employ foreign nationals and then have to have paperwork to show immigration that they have a valid passport and visa to work legally in the UK. Otherwise its a £10,000 fine per employee.

    I think whats happened is some jobsworth has taken it upon themselves to do this with every new employee for fear of discriminating the foreign workers.

    A completely idiotic way to take on staff and certainly a massive embarrassment to the company I would imagine.

    A few years ago a friend of mine worked for a car valeting showroom, and was laid off, he applied for a new valeting job and was asked for a copy of his passport and visa, he was supprised when they told him he had to have a student visa, He's English, born and bred. The company was, he found out the car cleaning firm that did Tesco car parks and the pay was min wage
     
    Posted: Jan 25, 2014 By: Merchant UK Member since: Aug 15, 2010
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  10. Merchant UK

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    I would imagine your mum didn't have the right colour skin :eek:

    I would personally embarrass the hell out of that company, and the more ways you can the better, It almost stinks of racial discrimination ;)
     
    Posted: Jan 25, 2014 By: Merchant UK Member since: Aug 15, 2010
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  11. Steve Sellers

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    No it doesn't. Another reason why this forum is now in the gutter. People encouraging employees to make vexatious claims.

    Ridiculous.

    Newchodge, I will have to try writing in caps and bold (assuming simple caps hasnt already wowed all who lay before me), next time I make an application to the ET. The old writing in caps and bold never fails to win an argument. o_O
     
    Posted: Jan 25, 2014 By: Steve Sellers Member since: Aug 7, 2011
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  12. kulture

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    Calm down everyone. Please.
     
    Posted: Jan 25, 2014 By: kulture Member since: Aug 11, 2007
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  13. GDC71

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    So essentially we are saying that it is okay for a UK company to insist anyone it employs has a passport? If you don't have one that company will refuse to employ you. Sounds harsh but as long as making that requirement isn't illegal it's pretty much tough luck although the company may be losing out on some amazing talent!
     
    Posted: Jan 25, 2014 By: GDC71 Member since: Jan 19, 2014
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  14. Scalloway

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    Posted: Jan 25, 2014 By: Scalloway Member since: Jun 6, 2010
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