Dealing with long-term sick employees

WakingDragon

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Just a heads up to let you know of scheme that is being run in a number of (but not all) areas of the UK that helps you deal with problems relating to long-term sickness of employees.

Its free advice and consultations and is a scheme set up by the HSE but totally independent of it. Highly recommended and great service.

http://www.workplacehealthconnect.co.uk/

If you are worried about or currently experiencing problems with the long term sickness/absence of an employee then this is a good port of call.

Now don't say i never give ya nuffink ;)
 
Royal Mail recently run a very succesful scheme to reduce absence 'Be in it to win it'. This was where if employees were not off for a set period (6 months) then they would be entered into a competition with a possibility of winning cars, holidays etc...

Maybe for a small business it could be a chance to win football tickets, or restaurant vouchers etc....


Or just make your sick pay really poor (the statutory minimum) and they soon come back quickly :p
 
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This is quite an emotive issue for me.

I suffer poor health due to Endometriosis which means parts of the lining of your womb detach and float about until they attach themself to what ever else they can find.

In the last year my health has deteriorated to a stage where I barely have a pain free day and during my monthly (sorry boys) I'm in severe pain for two days and take very strong painkillers which knock me out.

Following a laparoscopy to investigate in early March I am now waiting for a bigger operation to remove Endometriosis from my bowel, my bladder, my womb, my ovary and the scarring from a previous cisarean style op which I had to remove a fibroid.

This has also meant fertility problems and two courses of IVF treatment.

Despite working for a government department for 18 years my employer did not deal with me sympathetically and despite me having to wait for the larger op gave me three months to reduce my sick leave and then started disciplinary proceedings.

Long story short I am lucky enough to have in laws who have given me 15 hours a week web design work for their business and a hubby who can afford to fund me in starting up my own e business and so I was able to resign.

I am a hard worker and built up a good reputation with in the organisation I worked for. People actually requested me because of the standard of work I did.

In order to try and help the situation I reduced my hours from 37 per week to 30 and finally to 22.

We had flexi in the office and it didn't matter which days I worked so I offered to work my days off to cancel out days that I'd taken off sick so that my employer still received a full working week from me but was told that this was giving me special treatment and that it would only be possible for a brief time. I was also told that if I passed out at work I would distress my colleagues so I should not come to work if I was ill and I should go home if I felt ill ... but all this while I was under disciplinary measures to reduce my sick leave.

I should also say that my flexi was always in credit which meant I always had time in hand and had worked extra hours.

The treatment I received from my employer caused so much stress that it actually made the situation worse to the point where I was so worried about making it in to work that I ended up feeling ill regardless of my actual health problem.

I know that sick leave is a serious issue for employers and mean a big drain on resources but what I would say is that because of the bully tactics that my employer used my sick leave actually got worse and instead of a positive result I've left taking 18 years of training and experience with me. The whole thing caused me a lot of distress and things got to the point where I didn't know what to do for the best.

The occupational doctor and my union rep have advised me that I have an excellent case to take to tribunal but having discussed it wth my husband I've decided that I really can't take any more upset and that it will be better to get on with making a new life.

The thing that upsets me most though is that I can list staff in our office who play the system and take their "allowed sick days" :mad: while flying under the radar and get away with it while colleagues with genuine health problems are suffering the treatment I received.

The flip side is that staff daren't be off sick and come to work with all sorts which spreads like wild fire ... I used to be very unsympathetic because I just couldn't afford to catch every day bugs and colds etc

I would dearly love to have perfect health but some times things just don't work out that way.
 
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Hi Sue

That is a very sad story, but I'm glad to see that you are moving on in spite of the treatment you received at the hands of your employer. And there was me thinking that government jobs would be far better managed in terms of employee support.

My experience has been very different, but also very similar in some ways. My company has LTS insurance and after 6 months the insurance company take over the individual cases. I have had numerous sessions with medical consultants for reviews on behalf of the insurance company. My personal experience with the company wasn't a happy one and I went through all the various internal grievance procedures before realising that I was banging my head against a brick wall. I finally got signed off with stress and depression and it took about 6 months of intensive counselling before the world looked like a better place.

I can understand how you feel about the tribunal and the need to move on. I think there are a lot of cases where the employer should be taken to task, but often it is too hard to go through that process. If you can find it in yourself to do that at some point in the future, it might help yourself and others who find themselves in a similar situation. What I did was to go to a solicitor and got some (paid for) advice. I, like you, am not ready to go through the process yet, but I may feel differently in the future.

Anyway, good luck in everything you do, I'm sure you will be successful.
 
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Hi Mike,

Thanks for the kind reply.

I'm sorry that you've been through so much ... it really does affect your life doesn't it. I've lost my confidence and despite having lots to look forward to now once your body starts down the stress route it's hard to get out of it ... you'll have had the same struggle.

I'm holding out for my op now and looking forward to getting back on my feet and having a life. I saw the consultant in March so I'm hoping for an appointment soon. Thank goodness for the internet which means I can work.

It's quite sad to go from performance pay and glowing reports to disciplinary action almost over night and to still have people blowing smoke up your back side telling you what a great worker you are.

The thing I found the hardest was the contradiction ... obviously the whole story would be too tedious for everyone to read but you do get to a point where you really don't know what to do for the best.

I know that those of us with health issues are a burden to our employers but I went from having a couple of days off per month and the odd early finish covered by working extra flexi hours to the being unable to cope with going to the supermarket and sobbing to my doctor ... a very proud moment I can tell you ... which lead to full time sick absence.

It was very obvious to my union rep and myself that the sole focus of the proceedings was to sack me on ill health grounds and that nothing I tried would help. I even offered to take a year's career break to have the op and recover from it but was turned down because they said that career breaks are for staff to take care of children and relatives when they have no one else that can do it. A year off unpaid v paying me sick pay ... obvious at this point that they didn't want to employ me.

I'm very sad to leave as I miss my job which I thoroughly enjoyed and my colleagues were lovely but you get to the point where you've got to think about yourself and I'm determind to make a success of my business.

I'm very lucky that my personal circumstances allow me to strike out on my own ... some people can't afford to take the risk.

Best of luck Mike ... every success in the future whether you decide to take action ot not.
 
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Scott-Copywriter

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My personal beliefs are (or will be if I ever have my own Business to employ people) that I'll probably give incentives for employees who are not absent long-term and give others the benefit of the doubt to a certain extent if they are feeling ill, but if it becomes a regularity I'd take action.

As for medical conditions like Sue has if there's proof of the condition (theres a lot of fraudsters out there) I'd do everything possible to make it comfortable for them and allow them as much time off as they need within reason. I'd just have to trust people and hope they note my respect and repay me back in the long term by remaining loyal and hard working, whenever possible.

I'm definately a pushover for things like this. If I ever managed to make a big enough company I'd definately introduce a 'Business family' approach for employees, giving annual days out together and special incentives. A happy worker is a hard worker, I hope.
 
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