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  1. mpollard

    mpollard UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Hi,

    We handed over the keys on a business property on the 1st of March and have since been chasing them for our deposit of £1000. They finally got back to me today to tell me that they were withholding around £145.

    Remedying/filling of holes (from shelving)
    Internal decoration in white throughout
    Repair of cracked window pane/cleaning of windows (internally)


    I am going to dispute the cracked windows because they were in the same condition when we took the property 3 years ago and we asked the landlord to note this. But should we dispute the internal decoration too? The space was clean and tidy and they paint on the wall is still in good condition, perhaps needs a little repainting here and there from general wear.

    The landlord has basically decided that they are looking for a certain type of tenant and has increased the rent by as much as 60% to get the current tenants out.

    Can anyone offer any advice on this, the landlord has treated us and several other tenants really badly and they don't really deserve another penny out of us.

    Thanks for you help.
     
    Posted: Mar 21, 2016 By: mpollard Member since: Mar 30, 2013
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  2. billmccallum1957

    billmccallum1957 UKBF Ace Free Member

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    £145 sounds pretty reasonable to me.
     
    Posted: Mar 21, 2016 By: billmccallum1957 Member since: Feb 11, 2016
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  3. MY OFFICE IN CHINA

    MY OFFICE IN CHINA UKBF Legend Full Member

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    I would say on the cheap side.
     
    Posted: Mar 21, 2016 By: MY OFFICE IN CHINA Member since: Nov 16, 2011
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  4. mpollard

    mpollard UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Hmm, I am not really asking if it is reasonable, more whether I should accept what they are saying...

    The remedying/fixing of holes from shelving is 6 holes in on wall. I do not believe that the internal decoration is anything other that wear an tear after 3 years use. The windows were cracked and dirty when we took on the unit and we asked for this to be noted on file.
     
    Posted: Mar 21, 2016 By: mpollard Member since: Mar 30, 2013
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  5. billmccallum1957

    billmccallum1957 UKBF Ace Free Member

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    Yes
     
    Posted: Mar 21, 2016 By: billmccallum1957 Member since: Feb 11, 2016
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  6. MY OFFICE IN CHINA

    MY OFFICE IN CHINA UKBF Legend Full Member

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    Yes, especially as you want the balance back pronto!
     
    Posted: Mar 21, 2016 By: MY OFFICE IN CHINA Member since: Nov 16, 2011
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  7. mpollard

    mpollard UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    I'm not desperate for the money, just a bit fed up with the landlord taking the pee
     
    Posted: Mar 21, 2016 By: mpollard Member since: Mar 30, 2013
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  8. MY OFFICE IN CHINA

    MY OFFICE IN CHINA UKBF Legend Full Member

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    You've been chasing him for the deposit.

    His charges seem more than reasonable.

    Where do you want to go with this?
     
    Posted: Mar 21, 2016 By: MY OFFICE IN CHINA Member since: Nov 16, 2011
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  9. billmccallum1957

    billmccallum1957 UKBF Ace Free Member

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    an added note, you could have repaired the walls and repainted yourself before handing over.
     
    Posted: Mar 21, 2016 By: billmccallum1957 Member since: Feb 11, 2016
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  10. john1989

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    There were small repairs that needed doing.

    The landlord has had to spend time arranging for someone to go and repair it. That repair costs money. The repair cost is far from excessive, and you had the opportunity to go over the property yourself before vacating the premises.

    You can dispute it. But I don't see the point for a £145 repair bill.

    What is the desired outcome for you? Repair of £125? £100?
    If so, you should consider your own time in disputing this.
     
    Posted: Mar 21, 2016 By: john1989 Member since: Jan 1, 1970
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  11. mpollard

    mpollard UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Perhaps you are right. The landlord is based on site with several maintenance guys onsite to take care of general repairs and refurbishments. I think I would accept the 6 holes for shelves and the minor redecoration but I will dispute the windows.

    We did ask the landlord to come and look at the property before we gave them the keys for them to confirm that everything was okay and they told me that they would have to wait until the estates team were able to inspect the space.

    It seems odd that you would just accept the repair bill on the reasoning that it seems like a reasonable value regardless of whether they should be charging for (some) of the repairs at all.
     
    Posted: Mar 21, 2016 By: mpollard Member since: Mar 30, 2013
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  12. billmccallum1957

    billmccallum1957 UKBF Ace Free Member

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    Its not always an acceptance of a bill.

    In your case, you acknowledge that the walls had holes in (even if it was only 6).
    You accept that it could have used a bit of paint (wear & tear is your responsibility).
    If you knew there was damage to windows, why not get them repaired when you moved in and/or photographed them yourself as evidence if you needed it.

    In every premise I have rented over the years, they were always put back into the condition they were in when we moved in (or dramatically improved) and have never had a deposit held back.
     
    Posted: Mar 21, 2016 By: billmccallum1957 Member since: Feb 11, 2016
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  13. Chris Ashdown

    Chris Ashdown UKBF Legend Free Member

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    regardless of all else what did your contract state
     
    Posted: Mar 21, 2016 By: Chris Ashdown Member since: Dec 7, 2003
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