best way to get backlinks

[mediaguy35]

I suspect you failed in your marketing endeavours

well, suspecting you know, just isn't so - and that's why I get 1 million + page requests on my sites and been featured in over 30 newspapers. One word from me on my blog and I can crush sites, cost them much business. Btw, couldn't find your company url in the first few page of the SERPS

 

[mediaguy35]

So what is it you do then?

Sorry, I don't name my businesses on forums as the audience is off-target, but I use capture methods to drive word of mouth as its very effective. Lets say I own a forum and some blogs, and an entertainment sort of site. The forum is small, but effective as its tied into my other sites, which got into the Daily Mail, Trinity Mirror, Marketing Week, some niche magazines and many more local press (24 of them), and news websites.

 

[OldWelshGuy]

OK so you are anonymous then and unable/unwilling to disclose anything verifyable.

Thanks

 

[avecSys]

It's like punching smoke right about now

 

[mediaguy35]

OK so you are anonymous then and unable/unwilling to disclose anything verifyable.
Thanks

Like I said, I don't use forums to promote and never will.

 

[avecSys]

You said the reason why you don't say is because ''the audience is off-target'' , last time I checked this was a business forum..... For businesses.... regardless of niche

Sorry, I don't name my businesses on forums as the audience is off-target, but I use capture methods to drive word of mouth as its very effective. Lets say I own a forum and some blogs, and an entertainment sort of site. The forum is small, but effective as its tied into my other sites, which got into the Daily Mail, Trinity Mirror, Marketing Week, some niche magazines and many more local press (24 of them), and news websites.

Like I said, I don't use forums to promote and never will.

Is this the definition of a forum post Oxymoron?

 

[JonnyMP]

Can anyone give me any advice on getting backlinks?
In particular, article submission. Which sites should I be submitting articles to in order to get backlinks?
Squidoo, seems to be for USA market. Is there one for the UK market?

I'm sure you already know by now that Squidoo is gone. So go with the next best thing of Hubpages. You could buy a backlink off a very popular, related Hub and have it direct to your site. So long as the person can find a credible reason for linking to your site, the link is likely to be allowed. And, if the Hub has a score of 75 or up, then the link would be do follow.

 

[japancool]

My advice for getting backlinks - talk to website owners within your marketplace or sector, and see if you can persuade them to write a piece about you, do an interview, include you in any lists of resources that they may have such as recommended retailers, etc. etc.

Give them a reason to support you by having a product worth talking about. Forget this stuff about guest posting, article submission and all that. You want traffic coming from people who might actually be interested in buying what you have to sell. Think about the top website that potential customers in your industry frequent, and how it would affect you if they ran an article about you and your business. Not an advertorial. An actual story about you.

This is what some people would call "blogger outreach". It's also called good, old fashioned, networking.

 

[mediaguy35]

So go with the next best thing of Hubpages.

Bad advice! We have a page and link on Hubpages, and the ability for Hubpages to send us traffic is a pathetic zero in like years lol.. I suppose our content isn't right for Hubpages readership, but when looking at the junk spam sites that use it, its now no more than a glorified spam magnet. What , trying to stand out amongst a million others, and that's without the spam as well - omg..

You'd be better off using Twitter, but in time that will be full of junk - you'll see

see if you can persuade them to write a piece about you, do an interview

Forget approaching silly websites and begging for stories like he's some web-star celeb.

If the 'story' stuff is to work, the real media is the only best option, but for this to work, you need a kick-ass website for Journos to be interested.

But seriously, doubt any stories will be written due to superior stories/web sites being available instead.

 

[mediaguy35]

last time I checked this was a business forum..... For businesses.... regardless of niche

and here lies the biggest mistake in marketing history. Oh, just list anywhere and you're bound to hit a ton of sales. Oh what - please no more I cant take it anymore.

You will get traffic - yes! but it will be so off-target, its like asking for wrong people to use a wrong service they have no interest in. That is not segment marketing, what you suggest is called 'marketing by blunderbuss' eg: a weapon with a wide approach that hits whatever is infront of it - but such a hit is never an accurate one as you'll get 3 out of 1000, and its probably not enough.

 

[mediaguy35]

White hat SEO is about producing longevity in the rankings more than what everyone else is also doing, so its a bit of a joke service as getting traction is so difficult. Traction needs is different for every biz model eg: A travel portal needs more traction than say a small time corner sweet shop for instance.

 

[Alan]

My advice for getting backlinks - talk to website owners within your marketplace or sector, and see if you can persuade them to write a piece about you, do an interview, include you in any lists of resources that they may have such as recommended retailers, etc. etc.

Generally, website owners do actually want to link to other useful sites. Probably about 50% of our clients ask if they can have a 'links' page when we are going through what pages they need.

 

[mediaguy35]

Generally, website owners do actually want to link to other useful sites

I own one of the biggest sites on the web and it has a links page right - I'm telling you now that it gets no link exchanges whatsoever, Infact we are getting the link page removed as soon as we can.

Free link swaps are dead, the only ones who are interested in such things are the desperate, the spammers and the uneducated, oh, and the poor

 

[webgeek]

I own one of the biggest sites on the web

Is that the 135,000 visits per year site you mentioned? You know, the old forum in need of mods...

You wouldn't happen to be Ray S. from mvix? If so, I love the extreme breakdance vids, though some b-boying BOTY would be a treat. If not, my bad.

 

[mediaguy35]

Is that the 135,000 visits per year site you mentioned? You know, the old forum in need of mods...

That's just one of 6 web properties I own. But none of em ever relied on link swaps though - just word of mouth traffic. Come to think of it, we never did PPC or heavy SEO or any of that. Some might say it was luck, we say our sites fill a need, but from this came a truck load of traffic and 25k's of one-ways links - so far.......

But this is what I;m saying, you don't need all this expensive costs stuff to get traffic. Ofcourse the SEOs/PPC bods will argue the case, but we all know its to feed there lifestyles.

Sure, like mine, many sites have links, but the bulk of traffic doesn't come from those links. The success comes from the unique visitors thise sites have built up over the years and its that simple , none of this 'secret' nonsense or vast SEO spending cobblers built those sites or mine for that matter

 

[mrkidd85]

Depends on your budget really, and your industry.

In order to build links on good websites with a strong following, you have to create something that the readership of said websites will find interesting. The better the quality of website, the more interesting and helpful the content has to be.

It's not impossible to get links from some really good news sites like the BBC and the Guardian if you work hard enough.

If you read some of the BBC and Guardian news stories, you'll see that they are huge fans of surveys and data from them. So have a bit of a brainstorm with your team and think of something that's going on in your industry at the moment. Create a survey around that on Google Forms (free), and try and push it out to as many people as possible.

If you can get a sample of at least 1000 people, put out a couple of press releases (nofollow links) with the main findings as the headline. Don't mention all the results in the press release so if a journalist picks it up, they have to send people to your site to show all the results.

Once you have the results, you don't have to stop there. Reach out to industry experts, company CEO's and bloggers to see if they have an opinion on the results. Create a blog post with all the commentary and see how many shares it will get on social media. Everyone loves a bit of free promotion, so it's pretty likely that they'll end up sharing the post with their scores of followers.

I'm in the process of doing this for the company I work for. We didn't get many responses, but it's got a few people talking. I've gone to everyone who has Tweeted about it and everyone who has commented on it and asked them for their opinion on the outcome and if they're willing to contribute to the commentary on it.

So for the price of a press release, I have built some relationships with big players in the industry, as well as bringing in some really decent traffic.

 

[mrkidd85]

Forum, guest posting, social bookmarking, article sharing is a great way to get quality backlinks for your site. You can get more idea about this on custom essay writing service sample articles. Go through with them.

2011 wants its post back mate.

 

[zigojacko]

I don't believe in 'quality comments' I see the whole thing as a giant sales pitch by link building SEO's from all countries of the world. The fact that weblinks are freely given when posting, clearly encourages third party agent spammers and that's the issue here. Content work should always be DIY, categorised, themed, controlled by publishers and this will stamp out spam.

This is absolute nonsense. If you can't write content that creates discussion points about a subject then you've probably got nothing interesting or worthwhile to say.

There are thousands of blogs with tons of great discussion in the comments. Even those that don't allow a website URL to be left. It's not only a great way to engage and build relationships but it's also extra ranking power as your posts can rank for a lot more with a load of indexable comments on as well.

Missing the bigger picture here...

 

[zigojacko]

iiisark Thanks for your reply.
The "paid-link" I metioned above refer to kind of sponsor link or a backlink in a paid article. I know the link should be nature.

Which of course you would nofollow anyway to adhere to Google's guidelines on paid link placements otherwise likely facing a penalty later down the line...

 

[japancool]

I don't know whether Reddit posts are indexable, but whenever someone mentions us there, we get a lot of new visitors.

 

[zigojacko]

Pretty sure Google frowns upon guest posts nowadays.

Not true.

Google frowns upon guest posting for links. There is a difference.

Just like they've always frowned upon any methodology for links.

 

[mrkidd85]

This is absolute nonsense. If you can't write content that creates discussion points about a subject then you've probably got nothing interesting or worthwhile to say.

There are thousands of blogs with tons of great discussion in the comments. Even those that don't allow a website URL to be left. It's not only a great way to engage and build relationships but it's also extra ranking power as your posts can rank for a lot more with a load of indexable comments on as well.

Missing the bigger picture here...

I agree with you, but I think Media Guy meant that usually when an SEO company offers this as part of their service, they usually just write stuff like 'I agree', or pretty much things that don't contribute.

I always advise clients to do the blog and forum commenting themselves. At the end of the day, it's hard for an SEO who doesn't know anything about golf to become an authority within a month or so, so It should always be the client's perogative to do this.

I'm luckily in a position where I can turn clients away if I feel that they won't be doing their bit to contribute. If they don't want to write content or don't want to get involved in their online communities, I will not work with them.

 

[zigojacko]

Forum, guest posting, social bookmarking, article sharing is a great way to get quality backlinks for your site. You can get more idea about this on custom essay writing service sample articles. Go through with them.

2011 wants its post back mate.

More like 2001...

 

[zigojacko]

I agree with you, but I think Media Guy meant that usually when an SEO company offers this as part of their service, they usually just write stuff like 'I agree', or pretty much things that don't contribute.

No, he actually categorically stated that all blog comments are spam.

In pretty much those words.

 

[OldWelshGuy]

I agree with Zigo , what was said was that all comments on a blog are spam, and that blog commenting (for whatever reason) is spamming.

 

[mrkidd85]

Unfortunately people think this way because of dodgy SEO companies spamming. If done properly, commenting can not only bring you traffic, but it can create lots of link building opportunities.

It's the same with social conversations. How many companies (even agencies who are paid a shed load) think a social campaign is just tweeting your own blog posts? Join in with what people are talking about, and you'll soon be noticed by them.

 

[OldWelshGuy]

I agree 100% and said so, but was told I am a spammer because I post comments on blogs (for myself not my business essentially) on subjects I love. I commented on the BBC's blog & website on the sport I am involved with. a year later we were invited down to the filming of a live sports programme to be in the audience and ask questions. The BBC then linked to my forum.

But apparently it is spamming, not relationship building

 

[avecSys]

Its funny but, the only spam on this post I care not to read is the drivel perspiring from MediaGuy. His views seem so misconstrued its hilarious!

 

[japancool]

Its funny but, the only spam on this post I care not to read is the drivel perspiring from MediaGuy. His views seem so misconstrued its hilarious!

Hey, he owns "one of the biggest sites on the internet".

 

[avecSys]

Hey, he owns "one of the biggest sites on the internet".

According to Huffingtonpost I believe

 

[Annoying Donkey]

Its funny but, the only spam on this post I care not to read is the drivel perspiring from MediaGuy. His views seem so misconstrued its hilarious!

I ignored him months ago... Makes the thread a little difficult to understand...

 

[mediaguy35]

This is absolute nonsense. If you can't write content that creates discussion points

With all respect, its not nonsense when my business deals in publishing content, and I was referring to an 'open form' that allows anyone to spam it. We see and delete the crap promotional posts/junk people write, so don't tell me its nonsense ok.

There are thousands of blogs with tons of great discussion in the comments

What! go out and visit them all personally did ya.... oh please, how the hell would you know this.

See, you know I'm correct on this, but your ego won't allow yourself to agree with me.

 

[avecSys]

Your rebuttal is boring....

 

[zigojacko]

With all respect, its not nonsense when my business deals in publishing content, and I was referring to an 'open form' that allows anyone to spam it. We see and delete the crap promotional posts/junk people write, so don't tell me its nonsense ok.

Any legitimate blog would have spam prevention measures in place on their website and moderate comments not to allow spam. And there's a lot of blogs out there that don't let any old garbage posted.

What! go out and visit them all personally did ya.... oh please, how the hell would you know this.

Are you actually serious? I've read and contributed to thousands of blogs about a variety of subjects over the years so erm... yes!

See, you know I'm correct on this, but your ego won't allow yourself to agree with me.

I don't know how on earth you came to the conclusion that I have a big ego from any of my posts in this thread but no, the reason I don't agree with you is because you're wrong quite simply.

It's quite clear now that you are in fact trolling so looks like you're tarnishing the rest of the web's users by your very own actions.

 

[InternetMarketingPlatinum]

But what does 'useful information links' actually mean? It could mean request links from a news site, which you won't get as the 10 page sole-trader site you have isn't worthy of a link back.

Does Google realise what's involved for the non-info type site these days. If you don't own an info based site - you are screwed as far as free links are concerned.

Your comment about a 10 page sole-trader site not being worthy of a link just shows a lack of experience in gaining such links. Can't a local locksmith provide link worthy content about home security, write a blog post about anti-bump locks, and so on? The same can be true of many local website owners. I mean the concept of the small company blog was introduced quite a few years ago now. I just find you blanket comment rather sad.

 

[InternetMarketingPlatinum]

Ive yet to see a blog of such quality, that it allows anyone to spam it freely, and by doing so ruin what the amazing traffic magnet it has worked so hard to be. All blog commenting is spam, pure and simple.

I don't believe in 'quality comments' I see the whole thing as a giant sales pitch by link building SEO's from all countries of the world. The fact that weblinks are freely given when posting, clearly encourages third party agent spammers and that's the issue here. Content work should always be DIY, categorised, themed, controlled by publishers and this will stamp out spam.

Your comment "All blog commenting is spam, pure and simple" is simply outrageous. To stretch this a little further...what is the purpose behind you posting on this forum - by your own admission, your motive is that of pure selfish self-promotion is it not? Your idea that all content should be closed and webmaster controlled is not what the web is about. Yes it's good to control many of your web assets but your views on how you wish the web to develop are unfortunately the opposite of the developing trend.

 

[japancool]

He wants to self promote but won't tell us anything verifiable about himself... hmm...

 

[Karen Bennett]

Thanks commercepundit for the list of bloggin platforms. I've recently started to build partnerships with other key influencers in my industry. We have agreed to become guest bloggers on each others sites. So the content is relevant to our mutual audiences. For 2014/15 do you think this would be a better platform to get back links as we're both related to the same industry? Or would you psot to this free blogging platforms instead?

The problem is resources and trying to produce content so I'm trying to get the best and most credible links to my website. I'm sure everyone is the same.

 

[UKSBD]

Thanks commercepundit for the list of bloggin platforms. I've recently started to build partnerships with other key influencers in my industry. We have agreed to become guest bloggers on each others sites. So the content is relevant to our mutual audiences. For 2014/15 do you think this would be a better platform to get back links as we're both related to the same industry? Or would you psot to this free blogging platforms instead?

The problem is resources and trying to produce content so I'm trying to get the best and most credible links to my website. I'm sure everyone is the same.

This is the type of thing that Google appears to have been particularly targeting recently.
If you're going to have private networks be very careful how you share links.

No problem guest blogging on each others sites, but if only doing it to drop links be very careful.

Most SEO's do (or have done) this, but it's far from safe nowadays.

 

[Karen Bennett]

Thanks for the feedback. We're going to guest blog on each other's sites as we are both targeting the same audience. So the blogs will be thought leadership focused. We also hope to help each other in terms of tweeting and sharing each other content on social media channels every now and then. It's more of a long term partnership to become a credible influencer in our industry. Totally agree about posting blogs just for back links is not the way forward.