Are the moderators doing enough in keeping down personal abuse and name calling

Discussion in 'Feedback & Help' started by Chris Ashdown, Jul 12, 2020.

  1. Chris Ashdown

    Chris Ashdown UKBF Legend Free Member

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    Over the last few years there seems to have been a growing free for all in abuse to members without any interference by the moderators who seem happy to let it go. There should be no room for Name calling or accusing some one of a crime without any evidence.

    Often someone mentions just a very broad outline and many jump down their throats based upon no knowledge of the full facts, we probably all have done the same, but it is a form of bullying that should be stopped, after all most forum posters are professional people in their own right

    Its frustrating to see first posts so vague that nothing is really known about the background to the post, but that should not mean that everyone jumps in with all sorts of assumptions but rather ask for a more in depth information from the poster
     
    Posted: Jul 12, 2020 By: Chris Ashdown Member since: Dec 7, 2003
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  2. Newchodge

    Newchodge UKBF Big Shot Free Member

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    The moderators do not read every post. If you find a post unacceptable, report it.
     
    Posted: Jul 12, 2020 By: Newchodge Member since: Nov 8, 2012
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  3. atmosbob

    atmosbob UKBF Ace Free Member

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    The moderators could help by getting rid of my ignored member who is also ignored by several others. Total waste of space and time.
     
    Posted: Jul 12, 2020 By: atmosbob Member since: Oct 26, 2009
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  4. paulears

    paulears UKBF Big Shot Full Member

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    I doubt they even know your ignore list contents? On the forum I moderate, I don't waste time looking for issues, we deal with them if WE spot them, or get a report.
     
    Posted: Jul 12, 2020 By: paulears Member since: Jan 7, 2015
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  5. Aniela

    Aniela UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Sometimes things can be assumed. If someone posts asking how they can get a BBL, close the company and get away with not paying... you can safely assume they have bad intentions.

    The moderators do actually remove posts that they deem go too far. You just don't see those posts, because, well... they're removed.
     
    Posted: Jul 12, 2020 By: Aniela Member since: Mar 28, 2020
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  6. fisicx

    fisicx It's Major Clanger! Staff Member

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    There are hundreds of posts everyday. I might see a handful of threads each day. For the rest we rely on reports from members.

    Abuse does get removed but in many cases the posts are borderline and really just make the poster look stupid.

    Moderators do discuss reported members. Some get banned, some just get a warning.
     
    Posted: Jul 12, 2020 By: fisicx Member since: Sep 12, 2006
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  7. Bob Morgan

    Bob Morgan UKBF Ace Free Member

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    'Email and Social Media Culture!' - Some have lost the ability to Read, Comprehend and Understand! - Others have never possessed it!
     
    Posted: Jul 13, 2020 By: Bob Morgan Member since: Apr 15, 2018
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  8. Bob Morgan

    Bob Morgan UKBF Ace Free Member

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    Strange how this thread has 'Disappeared' from the forum too!
     
    Posted: Jul 13, 2020 By: Bob Morgan Member since: Apr 15, 2018
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  9. estwig

    estwig UKBF Legend Free Member

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    That is still a legitimate issue for discussion on a business forum. Assumptions shouldn't be made and posts like this shouldn't be policed.
     
    Posted: Jul 13, 2020 By: estwig Member since: Sep 29, 2006
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  10. consultant

    consultant Your Business Community Staff Member

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    @Chris Ashdown as mentioned, moderators will read what interests them, like you do, and take action if they (we) see something. They also take action if something is reported.

    Please report issues you have and they will be addressed and, in most cases, actioned.
     
    Posted: Jul 13, 2020 By: consultant Member since: Jan 21, 2008
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  11. Mike Hayes

    Mike Hayes UKBF Enthusiast Free Member

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    It's still showing in the General Business Forum for me. Although I'd have expected it to be moved to Feedback & Help by now as this isn't a business discussion.
     
    Posted: Jul 13, 2020 By: Mike Hayes Member since: Jan 7, 2016
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  12. fisicx

    fisicx It's Major Clanger! Staff Member

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    That's where is has been moved to.
     
    Posted: Jul 13, 2020 By: fisicx Member since: Sep 12, 2006
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  13. CHUKTC

    CHUKTC UKBF Regular Free Member

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    I'm afraid its a reflection of UK society in general where people seem to think it is fine to hurl insults, abuse people online and generally be offensive. People should be tolerant - not just the people posting replies but I have to same some of the replies to the replies are equally offensive.
    Most people on here either genuinely want help or are genuinely offering their best advice.
    If people aren't prepared to be civilized and decent they should be removed from the community.
     
    Posted: Jul 13, 2020 By: CHUKTC Member since: Jan 2, 2019
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  14. The Byre

    The Byre UKBF Legend Full Member

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    The base problem is that this forum attracts wannabee business people who think they know what they are doing or people who are running small businesses badly and need to hear that. A straight-forward answer is all too often taken as rudeness and then the poster feels entitled to be rude back - only then they are really rude and a bun-fight ensues!

    I have been accused of trolling when someone took umbrage at the comment that I could not fathom out what things cost on his website. His statement that one cannot give an answer because there are too many variables was absurd as he was selling computers.

    People wanting to sell a business are all too often crushed when they hear that they don't have a business to sell. People wanting to open a bar are upset when they hear that they need to work in a bar first. People looking for a start-up loan are deeply offended sometimes when they hear that lenders want to see collateral. Some chancer with an idea that is looking for a gullible developer to write an entire programme on spec is often shirty when he or she hears that developers get daft proposals like that all the time.

    This forum is very often the first time that dreamers get faced with reality - and it hurts!

    And then there is that happy band of pilgrims who come here for corroboration. Their search for advice is, in reality, a search for confirmation of the wisdom of the one thing they want to do that others have told them is a mistake. Nine posters tell them that what they want to do is a mistake and one tells them to go ahead. They hear that one and ignore the nine.

    I nearly forgot all those looking for the magic quick fix - the Electric Zoom Pills that solve all your problems. The plug-in for their website that will instantly improve conversions, the free video software that includes Blu-Ray authoring and a Dolby license, the free bookkeeping programme that comes preconfigured to their needs, the one brand of car that will improve their taxi revenues.

    Last but by no means least come the 'didn't read the contracts' together with the 'I don't need an accountants' and the 'I'm not going to a lawyers'. These are special people who, when they get unstuck, expect sympathy. They hate it when someone tells them that if they do not read a contract, that does not mean that they don't have to abide by its terms, that they need an accountant in the UK and that they must comply with the law and must understand contract law or not be in business.

    Is there anybody I have left out? I'd hate to think that there might be a tribe of goofs out there whose feelings I have failed to injure!
     
    Posted: Jul 13, 2020 By: The Byre Member since: Aug 13, 2013
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  15. paulears

    paulears UKBF Big Shot Full Member

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    Yep - you missed out the consumers who join complaining about perfectly reasonable business decisions, traders following industry practice, and essentially people who may well be members here - incensed by their treatment. The first person who replies with - "Well actually I think they were very fair ....." gets the treatment.

    On a tangent, I got my new premises from a local estate agent who specialises in property management. Somebody linked me to a Facebook group where the poor fella has been singled out for hatred, vitriol and amazing comments because his portfolio of properties and landlords are quite old fashioned. He is uninterested in one parent families, people on any kind of benefits, people from certain areas in town and those that can't read, write or spell properly. He has a clump of older landlords and property owners, and they only wish to deal with tenants of similar age. Anyone going into his office gets the Basil Fawlty treatment and never even gets viewings. He doesn't;t want the hassle of chasing them up for rent, and the landlords would like their property looked after and inhabited by nice people who haven't discovered Just Eat, and probably don't have Netflix. He has a portfolio of older people, gets very little hassle, yet the great unwashed on Facebook have it in for him. He was cautious on the phone with me, but then fine once he saw the grey hair, the lines on my face and my bank balance. The landlord didn't bother with a security deposit, and he simply did a credit check. The amusing thing with the Facebook complainers is their attitude. Advice was complain, contact Citizens Advice, report him (who to I have no idea), email his boss (one-man band), go into the office and shout etc etc. I think he really does do a Basil Fawlty - he looks at them, sizes them up and tells them he has nothing for them.
     
    Posted: Jul 13, 2020 By: paulears Member since: Jan 7, 2015
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  16. The Byre

    The Byre UKBF Legend Full Member

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    I shall be stealing those phrases in the future! They're too good to waste on a single forum post!
     
    Posted: Jul 13, 2020 By: The Byre Member since: Aug 13, 2013
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  17. atmosbob

    atmosbob UKBF Ace Free Member

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    Trolls.
     
    Posted: Jul 13, 2020 By: atmosbob Member since: Oct 26, 2009
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  18. Ian J

    Ian J Factoring Specialist Full Member - Verified Business

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    Oi you cheeky sod. I have Netflix and occasionally use Just Eat and whilst I don't rent my property I rent other people's several times a year in Europe and have been congratulated on the clean and tidy state that I have left the villa in
     
    Posted: Jul 13, 2020 By: Ian J Member since: Nov 6, 2004
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  19. atmosbob

    atmosbob UKBF Ace Free Member

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    I had to google Just Eat and got We're coming up empty, try removing some filters. I also don't have Netflix or TV.
     
    Posted: Jul 13, 2020 By: atmosbob Member since: Oct 26, 2009
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  20. atmosbob

    atmosbob UKBF Ace Free Member

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    I was told by a previous Director of Tourism for Cornwall that the cleanliness of holiday cottages when hirers left was in inverse proportion to their status. The more working class the cleaner they were.

    I am sure Paul did not mean to insult you.
     
    Posted: Jul 13, 2020 By: atmosbob Member since: Oct 26, 2009
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