And now...Let's block the Suez

Discussion in 'International Business' started by Paul Norman, Mar 25, 2021.

  1. Mike Foulds

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    Posted: Mar 26, 2021 By: Mike Foulds Member since: Mar 21, 2018
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  2. WaveJumper

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    I wonder how long it's going to be before I start seeing on my FB page just after the did you own a diesel Mercedes ........ did you have a container on route through the Suez's register your claim here :)
     
    Posted: Mar 26, 2021 By: WaveJumper Member since: Aug 26, 2013
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  3. Mr D

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    Do not worry, the containers have numbers on. Someone will figure out which container has the chillies. Very important container.
     
    Posted: Mar 26, 2021 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  4. atmosbob

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    As its coming up to the weekend a little pub quiz question for you.

    Why are the majority of American ships the same size as the Titanic?
     
    Posted: Mar 26, 2021 By: atmosbob Member since: Oct 26, 2009
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  5. Mr D

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    Not sure they are the same size - however ships wanting to transit via the panama canal have a maximum width.
     
    Posted: Mar 26, 2021 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  6. UKSBD

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    Is it the optimum size for a ship to be unsinkable
     
    Posted: Mar 26, 2021 By: UKSBD Member since: Dec 30, 2005
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  7. Mr D

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    Was that actually claimed by the owners or was it a media claim?
     
    Posted: Mar 26, 2021 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  8. UKSBD

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    No idea, a bit before my time :)
     
    Posted: Mar 26, 2021 By: UKSBD Member since: Dec 30, 2005
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  9. WaveJumper

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    Mainly I believe by the media a lot of it coming about due to the advertising from the shipping company itself who were instilling the virtues on the detailed design of the liner and its 'technologically advanced safety features' ie the 16 compartments within the hull whose doors could be shut by the flick of a switch and we all know where that got them
     
    Posted: Mar 26, 2021 By: WaveJumper Member since: Aug 26, 2013
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  10. thetiger2015

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    It wasn't intended for the ship to be opened like a can of sardines. They assumed it would be driven in to objects, not slide along the side of them for half its length, thus flooding the compartments and sinking the bow.

    The same thing happened to the Costa Concordia. It was designed to withstand impact and floods/fire in compartments but again, it was sliding across the rocks which sliced the hull open between compartments.

    As for the current situation, it does seem staggeringly odd that they didn't think this could happen. High sided container ships are not very stable, especially in narrow spaces. The slightest side wind blows them on the side of any river or harbour and pins them there. It takes multiple high power tugs to drag them away. The canal is too narrow for the size of ships travelling through and there are limited options in the way of tugs, there's just no room. Once it veers off course, it doesn't take long to smash in to the sandbanks and get wedged.
     
    Posted: Mar 26, 2021 By: thetiger2015 Member since: Aug 29, 2015
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  11. japancool

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    Well, the Suez Canal has been in operation since 1869. I wonder how many times this has happened before.
     
    Posted: Mar 26, 2021 By: japancool Member since: Jul 11, 2013
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  12. MBE2017

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    Loads of conspiracy theories, claiming this is no accident. Clinton’s people trafficking using the containers on board that ship, peadophile rings etc is one of my favourites, time will tell.
     
    Posted: Mar 26, 2021 By: MBE2017 Member since: Feb 16, 2017
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  13. japancool

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    It's clearly Bill Gates' latest plot to take over the world.

    The ship's computers probably run Windows.
     
    Posted: Mar 26, 2021 By: japancool Member since: Jul 11, 2013
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  14. Opinion87

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    Spent $500m building the ship; runs on Windows 95.
     
    Posted: Mar 26, 2021 By: Opinion87 Member since: Jul 1, 2015
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  15. Mr D

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    That was a decent safety feature.

    Just this occasion not of major benefit. Other occasions where such features have been installed they have helped.
     
    Posted: Mar 26, 2021 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  16. Mr D

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    Yes, the canal was built an age ago and these modern high sided ships with poor ability to make minor changes to position - plus maybe not enough tugs able to work these ships?

    Can't be the first container to get moved by the wind (if indeed it was the wind?) - however this is the first time I can recall hearing of the blocking of the canal area.
     
    Posted: Mar 26, 2021 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  17. atmosbob

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    The answer is that the Panama Canal's locks were made to fit the Titanic which was thought at the time was the maximum size a ship could get. The US navy built a warship shortly afterwards to the same size spec.
     
    Posted: Mar 27, 2021 By: atmosbob Member since: Oct 26, 2009
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  18. MikeJ

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    The Titanic was 269m long.

    That's almost 100m shorter than the largest ship to go through the canal.
     
    Posted: Mar 27, 2021 By: MikeJ Member since: Jan 15, 2008
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  19. Opinion87

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    Posted: Mar 27, 2021 By: Opinion87 Member since: Jul 1, 2015
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  20. Red Wood

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    The vulnerabilities of a global supply chain really has been layed bare over the last 12 months.
     
    Posted: Mar 27, 2021 By: Red Wood Member since: Jan 14, 2014
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