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Discussion in 'Time Out' started by Swisaw, Mar 26, 2014.
Yes it's quite sad to see how far this once fine forum has fallen.
If anyone is interested and haven't seen it already here is the preliminary report from the Malaysia Transport Ministry.
It includes the audio of the ATC exchanges.
Let's wait until they find the black box, if they ever do, before reprimanding people.
can you please direct us to the link of this preliminary report of Malaysian Transport Ministry. This is although we have heard a lot from Malaysian Officials. I wander if this report has anything new.
Oops sorry I thought I had posted it.
Here you go:
It seems a number of posters on this thread have been interviewed on camera:
ps these two sentences confirm the point I was trying to make previously.
i.e The transponder stopped transmitting at approximately the same time as the ACARS was logged of yet sattelite communications were received for a further (approx) 7 hours.
It is obvious the ACARS and transponder put off by hand. The question is this: why they didn't put off the link between the plane and satellites too? Every one points finger to De Garcia Island as the point of destination. can boeng 777 be refueled from the sky? Satellites communication indicates the plane went to the west of Australian coast far away from De Garcia Island. If the plane landed in De Garcia island it must have been refueled. At the same time they cut off satellite link. So the reason for leaving communication on between the plane and satellites to the Indian Ocean becomes obvious, to make people believe the plane crashed in the sea.
Most likely IMO
Probably becuase they didn't realise that just like your mobile the SATCOM periodically 'checks in' with the base station even though you are not consciously making calls or transferring data with it.
My mobile doesn't do that because I have disabled mobile data. It was costing almost 60p a day for nothing. But in the case of flight 370, whoever put off ACARS and transponder knew about the link to satellites. This people must have studied the plane bit by bit and prepared for the job professionally.
Assuming the 'going dark ' was an intentional act - I genuinely don't believe that the perpetrators would have been aware of the satellite 'pings'.
Sure they may have been aware of the need to log off the ACARS and switch of the transponder because these functions are common knowledge and detailed in the aircraft's operating manuals.
AFAIK the fact that the SATCOM 'pings' home when not in use is not in these manuals and was therefore not 'common knowledge'.
Also you can't actually turn of the SATCOM from the flight deck. You can 'log off' but the only was to be sure it will not transmit is to pull the circuit breakers and they are not accessible from the flight deck.
I am sure you know better than me about this technicality. But there are many things don't add up.
Please look at the following google map link and compare the distance between Malaysia and Vietnam and Malaysia and West Australia, where the plane vanished as claimed. You see the distance to West Australia is longer by at least three times to the distance to Vietnam. Now the plane could have fuel enough to fly a few hundred miles longer to Vietnam, but to West Australia it needed fuel to fly over a thousand miles more. So it was impossible for the plane to reach to West Australia.
But the distance to De Garcia Island is about one and half the distance to Vietnam. Many reports claim eye witnesses in Maldive Islands seen the plane and Maldive Islands are on the way to Degarcia Islands.
Now according to inmarsat satellites the plane went to West Australia. Now does inmarsat telling the truth or what. It is impossible for the plane to reach West Australia. But with a bit of extra fuel and the ability of boeng 777 to glide for 90 miles, it was possible fore the plane to reach De Garcia Island.
What has Vietnam got to do with it?
MH370 was fuelled for a flight to Bejing.
Here is the distance from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing:
And the same for Kuala Lumpur to Perth:
The two distances are similar.
We know that MH370 backtracked and didn't fly that route direct so the actually distance would be further but that is easily accounted for with the reserve fuel.
So it was a direct flight to China. Because of their first contact with Vietnamese Aviation Authority, I thought first they would have landed in Vietnam, in which case they would have carried fuel enough just to Vietnam.
“I have been held hostage by unknown military personal after my flight was hijacked (blindfolded). I work for IBM and I have managed to hide my cellphone in my ass during the hijack. I have been separated from the rest of the passengers and I am in a cell. My name is Philip Wood. I think I have been drugged as well and cannot think clearly.”
I have heard of people talking out of that orifice,but secreting a phone in such a limited space may present certain painful problems,except maybe for well used porn stars.
The phone was iphone5 with width of 5.86cm and length of 12.38cm.
Are you actually discussing a phones circumference, in aid to see if it will fit in your arse or not?