A good news story..............

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  1. Lucan Unlordly

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    Posted: Feb 18, 2021 By: Lucan Unlordly Member since: Feb 24, 2009
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  2. Talay

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    Surely the tens of thousands on furlough would have to actually come back to work first before they decided to leave the gravy train ?

    Maybe one of them can find out where Mr Flu and Mr Cold have been for the last 12 months ? because no bu55er has died from either since covidbollocks was found / invented / discovered etc.
     
    Posted: Feb 21, 2021 By: Talay Member since: Mar 12, 2012
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  3. Mr D

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    Strange that.

    A few seconds on google gives the lie to your claim, for flu.
    Any more lies you want to make up?

    • Influenza, pneumonia, and COVID-19 deaths in England & Wales 2020 | Statista

    This is how many flu deaths there have been in England so far in 2020 compared to Covid-19 | Blackpool Gazette

    Deaths due to coronavirus (COVID-19) compared with deaths from influenza and pneumonia, England and Wales - Office for National Statistics (ons.gov.uk)
     
    Posted: Feb 21, 2021 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  4. Mr D

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    Great that.
    In 3 years time we will have an increase in nurses available to be employed by the NHS. Or care homes etc.

    Now, how about after the crisis ends but before these nurses have finished their degree and get fully trained on whatever specialisation they take?
     
    Posted: Feb 21, 2021 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  5. Darren_Ssc

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    Since the cold and flu are transmissable by human contact, I'd have thought the answer would be obvious?
     
    Posted: Feb 21, 2021 By: Darren_Ssc Member since: Mar 1, 2019
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  6. Newchodge

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    Nurses on furlough? That is both unlikely given the current workload and illegal as publicly-funded posts cannot be furloughed.
     
    Posted: Feb 21, 2021 By: Newchodge Member since: Nov 8, 2012
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  7. MBE2017

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    Plenty however are allowed to stay at home shielding, in all manor of PSW jobs. I know many who have probably only been into work for approx 2 months in the last year, all on full pay.

    I also know forty in a call centre, none have worked in the office for 11 months, just made redundant. A true double edged sword, most had been boasting of being on full pay and not working, happy never to come into work, now they never have to again. No one, not even the Gov pays people to do nothing forever.
     
    Posted: Feb 21, 2021 By: MBE2017 Member since: Feb 16, 2017
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  8. Mr D

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    How is that different than shielding in the private sector?

    Every employee in the private sector I know who has been shielding has been on full pay. Some shield and can work, some cannot. Same pay either way.
     
    Posted: Feb 21, 2021 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  9. Lucan Unlordly

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    The positive aspect is not just that people still want to go into nursing but in record numbers.
     
    Posted: Feb 21, 2021 By: Lucan Unlordly Member since: Feb 24, 2009
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  10. Mr D

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    Indeed - people responding to the crisis and the shortage of current jobs.

    Just it doesn't help in the short and medium term as experienced staff will leave / retire / be burned out / go on long term sick / look to change their employer / emigrate etc.
    If this had happened starting 4 years ago then great, would be lots of replacements coming in. However nursing vacancies tended to be considerable even before the virus even with the number of fresh nurses arriving having finished university and applied for entry level jobs in the NHS.
     
    Posted: Feb 21, 2021 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  11. Interestedobserver

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    Right now a career in medicine looks to be one of the most secure and will have the best long term prospects for many

    Hard work though
     
    Posted: Feb 21, 2021 By: Interestedobserver Member since: Apr 15, 2020
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  12. Talay

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    Furlough, shielding, sick, whatever, it is all the same when you count it up. Folks getting paid for not working.

    How many tens of thousands are there within the wider argument of the health care sector ?
     
    Posted: Feb 21, 2021 By: Talay Member since: Mar 12, 2012
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  13. Newchodge

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    Actually it is not all the same. Most shielding or sick do not get full pay.
     
    Posted: Feb 22, 2021 By: Newchodge Member since: Nov 8, 2012
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