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Why Chinese are not so smart

Discussion in 'General Business Forum' started by RBS, Jan 18, 2010.

  1. RBS

    RBS UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    Its just shocking how dumn some can be :eek: And its not just one, many companies are like that. You ask them for plastic, they send you offer for metal one, you ask them for total box weight, they tell you weight of single item, you ask them 5 questions, they just reply to 3, you ask them photos of product, they send you completely different photos, you ask them for clothing measurments(like armpit to armpit) 4x times, all 4 times they reply: M, L, XL :eek: In addition, some english skills are terrible :(

    Feels like you can ask them what color is black, they will reply its yellow.

    Anybody having similar experience? How to deal with such a dumb people?
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  2. vvaannmmaann

    vvaannmmaann UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Have you considered learning their language?
    Having spoken to lots of English people,I find their language and writing skills to be equally atrocious.
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  3. RBS

    RBS UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    I hope you are joking :D But I dont think its going to help, as I ask such a simple questions, its definitely not a language barrier. Also, they can use translator to translate if needed.
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  4. Tej

    Tej UKBF Regular Free Member

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    They gotta be doing something right!!.. They are the largest exporters.

    Perhaps you should look into how you are conducting yourself!!

    Maybe your skills need improving?

    Just a thought!!
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  5. Lee Jones Jnr

    Lee Jones Jnr UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    I usually deal with dumb people by pointing out that their chinese is significantly worse and posting complaints about the english skills of the chinese people and calling the chinese people dumb marks them out as at best ignorant and at worst borderline racist.
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  6. deniser

    deniser UKBF Regular Free Member

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    You are obviously not dealing with the right people.
  7. RBS

    RBS UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    I didnt intend to offend anybody, but its been damn 4 days writing emails back and forward and I still cant get simple things out of them :mad: Its waste of time. How can you buy something if many of them cant tell you weight of box?

    I have had good people in the past with no problem, but I can figure out whats going on at that end of planet.
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  8. RBS

    RBS UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    I tried 6. Should I tried more? Or its just alibaba.com type of seller which is terrible?
  9. vvaannmmaann

    vvaannmmaann UKBF Regular Free Member

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    If I go to France for a holiday,I don't expect them to speak English.The number of Brits I have heard talking slowly and loudly in English to some French market trader really beggars belief.
  10. deniser

    deniser UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Find someone else to trade with. I manufacture goods in China but tested quite a few people out before I found one whom I trusted and can communicate with easily and who has the same level of attention to detail as I do.
  11. RBS

    RBS UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    I am just asking for DEAD simple questions:
    What is total weight of the box? Send me actual photos of product etc. Is it SO hard to understand?
  12. Lee Jones Jnr

    Lee Jones Jnr UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    The weight of..... the box? Not the weight of the shipping container?
    If I were them I would think you were wasting my time.
    It could also be that the way you write is difficult for them to understand as it is poor English, which is easy enough for us to read but not for someone who doesn't speak English as a first language.
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  13. vvaannmmaann

    vvaannmmaann UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Rob,you must have seen the Chinese guys posting on here,some of them offering to work as "middle-men" between us and the Chinese? Find one of them perhaps?
  14. RBS

    RBS UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    Yes, box. Why I should call it differently if they call it "box"?
  15. RBS

    RBS UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    Come on, how hard is that: Total weight of the box? Photos of product.

    I tried using simpliest terms I know, so they can understand.
  16. Lee Jones Jnr

    Lee Jones Jnr UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    The only reason you would need to know the weight of a box would be for shipping purposes. If you are 'importing' by the box, then you are in fact wasting their time.
    Thats me done with this thread.
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  17. vvaannmmaann

    vvaannmmaann UKBF Regular Free Member

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  18. RBS

    RBS UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    I wanted to know total weight of the box, so I can ask my courier for shipping charge.
  19. Tej

    Tej UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Just to elaborate on your post.


    Dumb is not spelt dumn.. ( people in glass houses!!... etc)

    Maybe they are offering you an alternative for plastic.. and quoting for metal

    By giving you weight of single item.. they are testing whether you can multiply by quantity you need... and get the weight of the whole consignment youself..all by yourself.. without any further help:)

    Clothing.. there are standard measurements for s, m, l, Xl. These are standard for US and Europe. AFAIK.. they dont do armpit to armpit:)

    Their english is a lot better than your chinese.

    and.. how do you describe the colour black?

    and before you ask.. yes... I have done a lot of business with China.. stretching back over 35 years:D
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  20. RBS

    RBS UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    I asked for plastic, they send offer for metal.
    There are lets say 10 products in the box. I asked for that box weight. Yes, I know there are size charts for US or UK, but they too often are different. If they are manufacturers, surely they should be able to tell some measurments.

    Tell me Tej, how did you find proper seller?