laws on sticking a poster on a lamp-post at the side of the road

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  1. simpson7647

    simpson7647 UKBF Enthusiast Full Member

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    hi all, i have a question, what are the laws on making a poster and just sticking in on a lamp-post on the side of a busy road?
    I ask this as i cannot find the answer.
    many thanks all
    Posted: Jul 8, 2010 By: simpson7647 Member since: Jun 10, 2010
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  2. Ranks

    Ranks UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Posted: Jul 8, 2010 By: Ranks Member since: Jun 22, 2010
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  3. mobyme

    mobyme UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    It's illegal. The Town and Country Planning (Control of Advertisements) Regulations 1992 is the principal statutory instrument that controls the display of advertisements in England and Wales.
    There are a number of exceptions under what is called "deemed consent" for estate agents etc.
    But you are basically wanting to put your poster or sign on municipal property or private property belonging to one of the utility companies.

    There is a little loophole if you are advertising a one day event for non profit making purposes and the signs are put up and removed within 24 hours; but even then technically you need the permission of the the people who own the property to which you are attaching.

    Lot's of people get away with it but in certain areas they will spend literally tens of thousands of pounds to bring you to book

    The fines for a first offence are in the low hundreds, so if you are looking to make a killing it could still be worth it.

    The biggest danger of doing this is that you might be ordered to reimburse the local authority their costs, which can be eye watering.
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    Posted: Jul 8, 2010 By: mobyme Member since: Jan 12, 2004
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  4. OldWelshGuy

    OldWelshGuy UKBF Legend Moderator

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    I was about to mention the charges that local authorties can bring. In some areas it is a flat fee per removal of £25-100 but if they take down 20, then that can easily mount up. Non payment results in action being taken.

    It is also pretty difficult to deny doing it now due to CCTV which is pretty much everywhere in the UK.
    Posted: Jul 8, 2010 By: OldWelshGuy Member since: Jun 12, 2008
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  5. simpson7647

    simpson7647 UKBF Enthusiast Full Member

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    okay many thanks for all your help.
    whats the law on putting in someones garden at the side of the road?
    so its actually on private property but those from the road can see it

    thanks
    Posted: Jul 8, 2010 By: simpson7647 Member since: Jun 10, 2010
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  6. Ranks

    Ranks UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    There will probably be a clause in their mortgage agreement stating its not allowed. There is not really any such thing as private property in the UK, at least for the general public :(
    Jay
    Posted: Jul 8, 2010 By: Ranks Member since: Jun 22, 2010
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  7. mobyme

    mobyme UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    It would require planning permission because it doesn't fall within the "deemed consent" clause.
    There is nothing to stop you getting a vehicle sign written and parked outside a property unless there is a covenant or bye-law which doesn't allow trade vehicles to parked in that particular area unless on active "business".

    Do you think you are going about this the right way? There is advertising on the cheap and there is advertising that makes you look like a cheap two bit, fly by night company flouting the rules by advertising in residential areas.

    Have you thought about putting an advert on the back of a bus, bus stop or side of a taxi?
    Posted: Jul 8, 2010 By: mobyme Member since: Jan 12, 2004
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  8. simpson7647

    simpson7647 UKBF Enthusiast Full Member

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    i was just thinking about this idea really.
    Im pretty sure ill get vinyl advertisement on my car and you say about advertisement on train/bus?

    no i haven't thought about that but bus maybe, what kind of costs would be involved for such thing?

    thanks
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    Posted: Jul 8, 2010 By: simpson7647 Member since: Jun 10, 2010
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  9. simpson7647

    simpson7647 UKBF Enthusiast Full Member

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    anyone any ideas?
    thanks
    Posted: Jul 8, 2010 By: simpson7647 Member since: Jun 10, 2010
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  10. Eagle

    Eagle UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Why not enquire with a public transport company?
    Posted: Jul 9, 2010 By: Eagle Member since: Oct 3, 2004
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  11. simpson7647

    simpson7647 UKBF Enthusiast Full Member

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    i will do, i was just wondering if anyone on here knew :)
    thanks
    Posted: Jul 9, 2010 By: simpson7647 Member since: Jun 10, 2010
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  12. jamesmd

    jamesmd UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Outside London:

    £178 pm for a small rear on 1 bus

    £479 2wks t-side (1 bus)

    £17.80 pm for 1 bus panel in 1 bus.


    Let me know if you want some help with this - I can book it for you. If your also interested, I can book billboards etc too.
    Posted: Jul 10, 2010 By: jamesmd Member since: May 4, 2010
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  13. simpson7647

    simpson7647 UKBF Enthusiast Full Member

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    Thankyou very much forbyour help.
    This is defently something to keep an eye on if my business rockets :)
    Thanks

    Ps what about prices in London btw and what kind of prices we looking at for billboards? I know it's going to depend on position and size but what do you recon?


    Many thanks
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    Posted: Jul 10, 2010 By: simpson7647 Member since: Jun 10, 2010
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  14. jamesmd

    jamesmd UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    much more expensive.

    £528 per 2week london t-side 1bus.

    £138 1month london 1bus rear

    they are only outer london.

    inner is referred to as london gold, 980£ tside, 154£ rear.
    Posted: Jul 10, 2010 By: jamesmd Member since: May 4, 2010
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  15. jamesmd

    jamesmd UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    billboards have much more variables on them, between £350 (month)for a phone box to £3000+ for a 2-week 96sheet (the big long one)
    Posted: Jul 10, 2010 By: jamesmd Member since: May 4, 2010
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  16. simpson7647

    simpson7647 UKBF Enthusiast Full Member

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    Very interesting. Okay thankyou very much
    Posted: Jul 10, 2010 By: simpson7647 Member since: Jun 10, 2010
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