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Discussion in 'SEO, PPC and Online Marketing' started by JacobTeal, Jul 26, 2011.

  1. JacobTeal

    JacobTeal UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Hey everyone, my name is Jacob Teal, and I am a 15 year old from Manchester.

    You probably know that recently UK university tuition fees have sky rocketed, so I have come up with an idea to help raise funds.

    The concept is that businesses buy a word from the homepage which then becomes a link to their site. To find out more, and see what's in it for you, see the About Us page at "whatarethosewordsworth.com/about.htm"

    You can also see the homepage here: "whatarethosewordsworth.com"

    Have a look, and let me know what you think!

    Any queries, please email me at: jacob_teal(at)live(d0t)co(d0t)uk
     
    Posted: Jul 26, 2011 By: JacobTeal Member since: Jul 25, 2011
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  2. theaffiliate

    theaffiliate UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Oh dear, another spin off Million Dollar Homepage... :)

    It's the exact same concept. If I was you, I'd come up with something more original.

    What's the point in doing this for so little? Even if you sell all 150 words, at the current rate it won't cover you for a single year at university once the fees increase.
     
    Posted: Jul 26, 2011 By: theaffiliate Member since: Jun 11, 2011
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  3. JohnnyCash

    JohnnyCash Guest

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    I'm holding back what I really want to say on this sorry topic since you're only a kid and don't know better... all I will say is don't waste your time on this. If you're banking on this money to go to Uni, get down McDonalds and ask them for a part time job - this idea you have (or should I say stolen) is going nowhere fast!
     
    Posted: Jul 26, 2011 By: JohnnyCash Member since: Dec 8, 2010
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  4. Minuteman Press

    Minuteman Press UKBF Ace Full Member

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    Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it!
     
    Posted: Jul 26, 2011 By: Minuteman Press Member since: Dec 8, 2007
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  5. articlejack

    articlejack UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Maybe a young entrepreneur in our midst

    But yes, get a part time job for now until you have a better idea

    If you want to make a little money online, why not learn about Google places or something like that and offer it to local business?

    All the best to you
     
    Posted: Jul 26, 2011 By: articlejack Member since: Oct 23, 2010
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  6. Codefixer

    Codefixer UKBF Regular Full Member

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    Sadly this'll not make you enough to have made it worth while.
    The Big Word Project was done a few years ago with a similar idea to yours, you can see a counter on their site of how many sales they achieved and they got some coverage in web magazines.

    Might not pay for your college fees but the next idea might, keep on trying :)
     
    Posted: Jul 26, 2011 By: Codefixer Member since: Nov 18, 2007
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  7. JacobTeal

    JacobTeal UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    All of these replies seem very negative, and not to be rude but I can counter all of them.

    First of all, I'm 15, and so not old enough to get a part-time job (the legal age is 16). I already run 3 paper rounds, and do gardening work in my local area, so there is not much more I could do physically when it comes to going out and earning.

    Secondly, the project has already been worth my while, as I set up the website last Wednesday, and have already sold £90 worth of words. This might not seem like much to you, but for a 15 year old on summer holiday with too much spare time it couldn't get much better.

    Thirdly, I know that this is not a completely original idea, and my website does say that I got the inspiration from the Million Dollar Homepage. I don't know about you but in my opinion being an entrepreneur is not only coming up with ideas, but seeing what works and going for it yourself. If every idea was original, there would be almost no businesses as there would only be one in each industry.

    Finally, to the person who said that this idea was "stolen", I suggest that you read the section of the Million Dollar Homepage that says he welcomes people who create their own variation of his idea.

    Once again. I do not mean to sound rude, but I refuse to sit back and let people try to put me down. I apologise to those commenters who genuinely meant well and offered "constructive" criticism, but I feel the idea works just fine thank you.

    Jacob Teal
     
    Posted: Jul 27, 2011 By: JacobTeal Member since: Jul 25, 2011
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  8. JohnnyCash

    JohnnyCash Guest

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    How many of those people did you know, or have some connection to, on Tuesday?


    I do think all the people telling you the idea sucks are doing you a favour. Its going absolutely nowhere, we can all see that. The quicker you realise that the quicker you can invest your time in something that actually stands a chance of making you any real money...

    It's good to see you trying something, but the something you've picked is a stinker. I build a good few websites too before I made one that made any money, so don't give up when this one fails.
     
    Posted: Jul 27, 2011 By: JohnnyCash Member since: Dec 8, 2010
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  9. OldWelshGuy

    OldWelshGuy UKBF Legend Staff Member

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    I am going to look at the bit in bold. Like you I started young. Now step back and think what you have written. You CAN get more work but YOU physically can't t do it. SO, 'sub-contract. I kid you not, I did this with my paper round and it worked well ;)

    Your word idea is Ok, but think of a different spin, aimed at a specific target market.

    Oh and well done for stepping out and standing your ground in a very mature and professional way. I think you will go far in buisness.
     
    Posted: Jul 27, 2011 By: OldWelshGuy Member since: Jun 12, 2008
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  10. sirearl

    sirearl UKBF Legend Free Member

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    If you are realy 15 Jacob then very well written.

    As said 90 quid is a lot to a 15 year old and maybe you will sell all your words be it to friends and family or whatever.

    Its a first step,I think if I were you I would keep watching the business forums and asking questions eventually you may well crack the money earning problem.:)

    Earl
     
    Posted: Jul 28, 2011 By: sirearl Member since: Apr 23, 2007
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  11. MASSEY

    MASSEY UKBF Legend Full Member

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    Why is your age important to this thread Jacob? your idea sucks balls, you would be told that no matter how old you are. Infact your outburst has just proved how you need to go back to school and start learning and get some common sense.
     
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    Posted: Jul 28, 2011 By: MASSEY Member since: Nov 29, 2009
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  12. theaffiliate

    theaffiliate UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Do your research, you could have got a part time job when you were 14 (or even at 13, but there are more restrictions for that). And, if you want to throw the silly buzz-word 'entrepreneur' into your reply as you did (not in the quote above), then you should never think that you can't be doing any more. There is ALWAYS more you can do. :rolleyes:

    As others have said, well written for a 15 year old but it's totally irrelevant how old you are. Business is business, and if your idea sucks then I'm afraid it will however old you are. None of that is meant to sound harsh, it's all true.

    Also, I assume you're registered with HMRC? If not, get it done and be responsible for your earnings.
     
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    Posted: Jul 28, 2011 By: theaffiliate Member since: Jun 11, 2011
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  13. JacobTeal

    JacobTeal UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    To all the people who have said that my age is not important to the business idea, of course I know this, and if you look properly you will see that I stated my age in response to someone saying that I should get a job at McDonalds. I was merely pointing out that this is impossible, as the minimum legal age for this and many other part-time jobs is 16.

    Thank you to all those of you who have offered advice, but I will be continuing with this idea. Two of the words I have sold were to people I knew before I started the site, and these were to cover the cost of hosting and domain registration. The other purchases I have secured by directly emailing business using their websites and the Yellow Pages.

    Finally "MASSEY", you do not make a strong case for yourself when you imply that I am immature whilst using phrases like "sucks balls" in your post. I think it is you that should go back to school and learn some vocabulary.

    I am not purposefully creating an argument, but I think some of these comments are a little overly negative.
     
    Posted: Jul 28, 2011 By: JacobTeal Member since: Jul 25, 2011
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  14. The Boy Holty

    The Boy Holty UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Go for it mate and don't let the negativity put you off. You clearly have a lot of drive and ambition and even if your current idea doesn't pay off, you won't have lost much but you will have gained some good experience.

    Ask yourself what people like Alan Sugar or Richard Branson would have done at age fifteen. They'd have listened to the advice but then trusted their own instincts, and look at them now.
     
    Posted: Jul 28, 2011 By: The Boy Holty Member since: Jun 23, 2011
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  15. consultant

    consultant I Can Help Your Business Staff Member

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    "UK university tuition fees have sky rocketed"

    They have, but don't you pay for them after you leave Uni, when you get a reasonably paying job?
     
    Posted: Jul 28, 2011 By: consultant Member since: Jan 21, 2008
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  16. The Boy Holty

    The Boy Holty UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    I really can't see why this lad's takking such a hammering about this. Even if the idea falls flat on its face (which it isn't doing as its already paid for itself and is making him money), then he's only lost the cost of setting up a small website.

    My only negatives are about the look of the site itself. It looks cheap. I think sites with a plain coloured background look terrible and this one is no different. I quite like the idea of the Wordsworth theme, but that obviously limits you to the amount of sponsorship you're going to get. I worked out that you're looking at a maximum of about £3000 which won't get you through university, though it might pay for your beer in the first year.

    Having said that, if it is successful then you can always extend it to be more like the million dollar home page in terms of format. There's nothing wrong with repeating the successes of others as long as you do it well and don't infringe on any copyright or plagarise anyone's work. The internet's full of people copying other's work anyway.

    I've bought a word for a tenner out of idle curiosity, and I wish you the best of luck. To hell with these naysayers!
     
    Posted: Jul 28, 2011 By: The Boy Holty Member since: Jun 23, 2011
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  17. JacobTeal

    JacobTeal UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Thank you very much "The Boy Holty". I'm glad that someone sees this in the way I do. As you said the project has already paid for itself so going forward I only stand to gain.

    When designing the website I tried to go for a "homemade" look, as I thought that if it was too over-developed the focus would be taken away from the simple idea. I wrote the entire website purely in HTML and CSS, without using a template or advanced web design software. Also, I thought that if it looked too well made no-one would believe that I am actually 15.

    Yes you're right the maximum I could make is around £3000, but I have a few years yet before Uni, and plenty of time to start and finish other projects. I already have ideas for another website and a blog in mind.

    Thank you for buying a link, and for your positivity in this thread.
     
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    Posted: Jul 28, 2011 By: JacobTeal Member since: Jul 25, 2011
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  18. 1weekSEO

    1weekSEO SEO Small Business Specialist in Somerset. Full Member - Verified Business

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    Jacob,

    I wish I could express myself in the written word that well when I was 15.

    I'm 40 now and still having trouble :p

    Why not try your hand at Adsense with a small website and promote it?
     
    Posted: Jul 28, 2011 By: 1weekSEO Member since: Aug 28, 2009
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  19. JacobTeal

    JacobTeal UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Thank you "1WeekSEO". I have always been able to express myself well in words, I guess it just comes to me naturally :)

    And yes that was the idea behind the website I mentioned in my last post, to make money through Google Adsense and other programs such as Chikita.

    Thank you for your positivity.
     
    Posted: Jul 28, 2011 By: JacobTeal Member since: Jul 25, 2011
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  20. Curious

    Curious UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Have you looked at affiliate marketing Jacob? I'm with the group that says that what you've done is great for a 15 year old but it isn't going to gain traction or make you a lot of money it's out outdated model and idea. Why not spend your time making a little network of affiliate sites, you'll learn loads whilst making the sites about what works and what doesn't and if you create some sites that work you've got yourself a nice little passive income to fund your learning and playing on the net?

    Props on learning html and css to write the site though thats a great start, you're already ahead of online marketers who can't use them (you'll be amazed how often you need to mod a template or page).
     
    Posted: Jul 28, 2011 By: Curious Member since: Jan 10, 2011
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