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Old 16th September 2008, 14:05
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What do you get out of your membership of the ICAEW and what does it cost you?

As an MD of an accounting software company, I probably shouldn’t be sounding off about them, but I’m starting to get really annoyed with them. Annoyed on your behalf.

They’re currently putting together a ”IT Faculty Software Product Guide (SaaS)”.

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The aim of the guide is to provide accountants with the information they need to decide whether or not online accounting can benefit their business
If I were a member of this body I would expect the guide to contain impartial information about the various services available and their relative merits.

But what you’re actually going to get is a guide that contains reviews of just the companies willing to pay the £3,500 to be reviewed. Hardly an impartial overview of the whole market.

It’s not that I begrudge paying for a review. We may well get a reasonable ROI as it’s not ludicrously expensive. I just find it a little disheartening that an organization that outwardly exists for the benefit of its members is ultimately more interested in making money from advertisers than providing relevant information to its members.

I’ve mentioned elsewhere my views on ICAEW accreditation. I was speaking to the MD of a much bigger accounting software company recently (who will remain nameless as you'd all instantly recognise the name). His comment summed it up perfectly: “You need two things to become ICAEW accredited – a person to tick all the boxes on the form and someone to write the cheque”.

I suspect that if I wanted to, I could get ICAEW accreditation for a non-existent product.

Rant over. I hope that those of you that are ICAEW members can assure me the organization has some redeeming features.
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Old 16th September 2008, 14:19
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I paid £272 to be able to put the letters ACA after my name. I don't really get any benefit other than that. I work outside of practice and rarely have anything to do with the Institute.
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Duane - can see where you are coming from but having studied long and hard for those bloody exams (all be it years ago!) I will pay my fees whatever to put the initials after my name.

I think ICAEW accountants have enough brains to decide themselves if a software product is suitable for their needs and I for one would not be influenced or otherwise by an accreditation.
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I think ICAEW accountants have enough brains to decide themselves if a software product is suitable for their needs and I for one would not be influenced or otherwise by an accreditation.
I'm not ICAEW but agree wholeheartedly with Elaine's comments.
I would have thought most accountants choose and recommend software on word of mouth and general experience, not what an institute chooses to recommend.

Duane, I sympathise with your rant, and you don't need accreditation to prove what we know already, which is that you have a great product
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Thanks Jenni. I've already decided against the accreditation. It was the £3.5k for a review in their "guide" that annoyed me this time : )
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So work around them. There are I am sure many "best of the year" awards especially now Christmas/New Year is coming up.

There are ones for software/online software/accounting software/niche accounting software.

if you can get in amonst one or more of them then ICAEW would have to report on your success...double bonus as you get them to advertise/report on you and you have not had to fork out £3.5/- for something that they should do free anyway!!!

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There are ones for software/online software/accounting software/niche accounting software.

There are. We won one last year. And we're in the running for the same award plus a bigger one this year.

We don't have any problems getting coverage - I was just having a gripe about the ICAEW in general really.
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So don't they report on best software etc? that is a way of getting back at them.

Obviously my idea falls down if they don't report on news item within their industry. then again if they don't report on it, maybe they are not providing a service to their members...
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So don't they report on best software etc? that is a way of getting back at them.
They do, but "best" is a subjective term - and I think they define it as "the person willing to give us the most money"
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Nightmare...so they don't even write unbiased news reports from within their sector...

I can see why you have a gripe!!!
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