Southampton Uni Accomadation

drummerian

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Basically a lot of students this year have been treated unfairly (myself included) by Southampton university. I am hoping you can help us out. Thanks


Basically a lot of students this year have been treated unfairly (myself included) by Southampton university. I am hoping you can help us out. Thanks

The first line from the main Southampton accommodation website :
‘With 20 Halls of Residence, a guarantee of a single room in a Hall in your first year and top-class facilities, it's no wonder that our accommodation is popular’
This was actually one of my reasons for choosing the university as I wanted to live my first year in halls.

Anyway. A few days ago students received this email:
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Accommodation for 2008/2009

You will shortly be receiving your offer of accommodation from the University of Southampton.

Due to the popularity of our Halls of Residence this year it has been necessary to twin some students in the most popular Halls complexes for a short period of time. This is where students share a single study room for a temporary period before being found single accommodation.

We understand that you may have been expecting to receive an offer for a single room and in most years this would have been the case. This year demand from students who are guaranteed a place in Halls has been higher than expected. To ensure that everyone is accommodated at the beginning of the academic year it has been necessary to twin more students than usual.

You may be twinned for a period of up to 12 weeks although we will endeavour to ensure all twinned students have single accommodation as soon as possible. Most people will be de-twinned within a 6 week period, and often sooner. Twinned rooms are offered at a reduced rent to take account of the fact that you are sharing facilities.

Attached are a number of FAQs about the twinning process. These are also available on the Accommodation Services website at

If you have any further queries please contact the Accommodation Service on +44 (0)23 8059 5959 or


Yours sincerely,

Accommodation Service
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Please note there is no apology at all.
So I’m thinking uh oh!
A few hours later my thought are confirmed. I look on the online accommodation service to find I have been put in a twin room. The problem being:
A)I didn’t ask for a twinned room
B)Its not even a twin room its a single room between two people.
So after much anger on my part I decide to see if it’s just me. Phoned a friend, same has happened to him. Checked the facebook group and found that it has happened to lots of us.
So I decide to phone up and see what’s going on. On the phone I received no real apology or reason why this had happened. I asked about the rooms, I am told that we will have to share a single room, between two people. There will be another single bed put in but we will be sharing a desk and cubboard, and not to bring too much stuff as space will be tight for the first few weeks (some peoples comments on the boards are that they live 300 miles away and can’t afford to keep going back a fourth when they need more stuff!). The cost of the room will be £471 for the 6 weeks period (the period starts as this and can be extended), after some quick maths I found that the normal cost of my specific shared room is £690 for this period. So I will be getting half a room (although not even half really) for 68% of the price.
I was also told that with will happen to 400-500 people, although this number seemed sketchy and others online have said that there are 1000 people without rooms (that have to share, therfor 2000 people sharing) . I was told that rooms would free up quickly as people will leave and not turn up, thats how they will get us all in. I am told 6000 people applied for 5000 rooms, so, in order to room us all in single rooms like we asked for and were GUARANTEED one sixth of the university would have to not turn up or drop out.
According to an article found via google (can't post link here as board won't allow me)
Southampton had a drop out rate between 03 and 04 of 8.8%. That is over the whole year. This year double that figure must drop out in the first 12 weeks for people to all get rooms.
However the wait could be up to 12 weeks, which in university terms is a third of a year.
Here are the main points of distress:
1.At 68% of the cost they will actually profit from this mistake. Is this really fair?
2.When I was put through to the head of the accommodation office I asked them to take the website guarantee down as it was clearly not being met, to which they replied ‘well when we put that up there we didn’t know how many students would apply.’ To which I said maybe you should check with your English department the definition of guarantee (admittedly loosing my cool here which was unnecessary). She replied she would prefer me not to speak like that and asked me to write a complaint instead.
3.The lack of apology
4.When speaking about a single desk between two I was told ‘you won’t be doing much work in the first few weeks anyway’ (the first few weeks could end up being a third of the year!!!)
5.The lack of any communication, we’re supposed to be going to the uni in 22 days! And not everyone has received their accommodation. Let alone what we’re supposed to do when we get there!
6.The fact I chose the uni partly on the GUARANTEE of accommodation
7.The fact this GUARANTEE is not being met at all.
8.The fact they would like us to share a single room between two. The rooms are 2.9m by 3.7m, if you share this between two you get a personal space (for possibly 12 weeks) of 2.8m by 1.85m, this is actually smaller than the average us prison cell. And you have to pay for the privilidge!
9.I did not discuss this on the phone, but if you get a whole corridor of sharers surely this means twice as many people will be using the bathroom facilities in that corridor, how is this going to work?

My main point of this post is to find if there are any legal issues being broken here and what we can do about them. Thanks to everyone for their support.
 

lockie

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So you feel you have been treated unfairly but what if you received an email stating due to too many people requiring accomodation we are unable to offer you any form of accomodation to avoid people having to share a room ? Im sure sharing would now seem like a good option.

It seems they are working to resolve the problem and your only arguement is about the fees charged as its more than they would normally charge.

Would you rather be having to look for somewhere to live ?
 
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rjharrison

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I doubt if there is going to be any legal redress (you're not going to take the to court over this, even if you could!); but if 500 people feel as upset as you, that's £1.5m/year worth of fees (+whatever govt. money they get per student + accomodation fees etc), which is a pretty powerful negotiating position if you could band together.

If it were me, I'd take the argument above the Accomodation Office and put pressure on the University Senate. Contact them + your department's tutor and tell them unless the accomodation situation is fixed you're going to withdraw. Contact the Soton student union's president and let them know about the situation. Contact the local papers down there (perhaps it's the sort of thing they'd print a story about). Setup a Facebook group to get people together, and get them to do the same things as you (make it easy, write some template letters and find out the right email addresses etc).

Universities are run like businesses and the students are one of their biggest customers. Hit them where it hurts: in the wallet and with bad PR.
 
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yorkshirejames

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Just enjoy it, chances are it'll be very social and help you make friends easier. I'm sure you'll get some kind of part-refund back in due course.

I remember when I was at university, I was dating a girl who shared a room with another girl. I'll get barred from the forum if I say any more, but lets just say I thought it was a great idea.
 
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sendit.co.uk

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I am quite shocked by the lack of advice given here, although I am guessing it may be because either drummerian is a newbie or that there is not much legally that can be done. I know I would be a little upset if I got to a hotel to be told that I was now in a twin room with a complete stranger, and that I'd still have to fork out 2/3rds of the original price for the privilege.

I think the real problem here is the lack of help and understanding from the University - they could at least provide some other options, or they should have sent an e-mail asking whether people minded sharing rather than enforcing it on a select few.

Personally I'd fight your corner with the University and try and talk them down on the price - after-all, it sounds as if they are profiting from their own short-sightedness.

Good luck!
Trevor
 
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I feel for your situation.
I'd do as someone above suggested.
Get a Facebook together, and go to the press. Bad PR certainly won't help the uni and will probably cost them next year. & you should be looking at least half price rent, OR LESS to share with someone; certainly not 68% of the price. Do they think you are mugs? Imagine a hotel telling you this, no way would you pay 68% and share. Uni's are businesses too, i'd imagine that they think people will have to put up with it; unless they drop out, which they know most people won't do. Your comment about the prison cell says it all.
J
 
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I went to Keele University, and they also did this at the beginning of the year, but it didn't affect many people -I can only recall one person on my corridor being 'twinned' up. It was a huge room though, so it wasn't a problem for the girls. They shared for about two weeks I think.
I do think it unfair that they don't allow you to just pay half rent, and hope you manage to get something sorted.
 
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conquer

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I can understand your frustration unlike some others on here, if the university promises something then they should deliver it. I do feel sorry for the staff on the phone, they are probably getting an ear bashing from each student without the ability to do anything about it so dont take it personally.

In the end the situation exists and they dont have a valid solution but I would be especially irate about the cost when sharing. The university should be offering very low if not free rent for the duration, why should you pay for their mistake?

The silver lining might be that you make some friends even faster than usual, will certainly break the ice :)
 
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If you are going to go via the legal avenue when you have to share a room for a short time, what are you going to do if a real problem ever comes your way. University is about living and learning. Deal with this - you will probably find that after an hours moaning, you and your new roomy might actually want to go out and find out more about the uni, or even have a beer. This could be the best thing for you, as this grace period will enable you to get your feet on the ground, have something to talk about with others in the same boat and generally achieve something as you go through the first couple of weeks at college. You have to rely on yourself, not the law, not mummy and daddy, not big brother. Yourself. If it's the only lesson you learn, then it will be the best.
 
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Charlie B ACS

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I'm appalled at the attitude of some of the replies here.

It's a fairly clear case of a service not being delivered as advertised, so why are some of the posters here being so condescending.

I'd be more impressed that they have tried to get advice to resolve the issue, rather than just say this is wrong, and then do nothing about it!

I can't offer anymore advice than that already given, and I hope that you do make new friends from having to share, but also hope you get a fairly hefty discount!
 
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yorkshirejames

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Can't understand why you would want to pay over £600 a month on site anyeway. Going rate for a fla/house share in Southampton is only about £250- £300. Rob

Probably the option to interact with other students. Sneaking down the corridor to some girls' room is something that just doesn't happen if everyone is in seperate houses (plus remember that some people do not have a particularly brilliant impression of private uni landlords)

If you are going to go via the legal avenue when you have to share a room for a short time, what are you going to do if a real problem ever comes your way. University is about living and learning. Deal with this - you will probably find that after an hours moaning, you and your new roomy might actually want to go out and find out more about the uni, or even have a beer. This could be the best thing for you, as this grace period will enable you to get your feet on the ground, have something to talk about with others in the same boat and generally achieve something as you go through the first couple of weeks at college. You have to rely on yourself, not the law, not mummy and daddy, not big brother. Yourself. If it's the only lesson you learn, then it will be the best.

Well said that man.

I'm appalled at the attitude of some of the replies here.

It's a fairly clear case of a service not being delivered as advertised, so why are some of the posters here being so condescending.

I'd be more impressed that they have tried to get advice to resolve the issue, rather than just say this is wrong, and then do nothing about it!

I can't offer anymore advice than that already given, and I hope that you do make new friends from having to share, but also hope you get a fairly hefty discount!

I'm sure that the reason for the "attitude of some of the replies" here is because the guy is starting university, which is a life/learning/development experience. I'm quite sure that if this was one of our guys complaining about office accommodation, we would have crucified the landlord by now.

To the OP - just enjoy your first few weeks at uni - chances are that you and your new room mate will be able to have a good moan about this over beers, and if you're really lucky you can find two ladies to bring back to this room..... I'd better not mention anything inappropriate.... just make sure you behave like a gentleman with Matt1959's stepdaughter.
 
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