Any keen Photographers out there?

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Root 66 Woodshop

We'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the following video clips.

I'll paint the picture for you. :D

The Team of Haunted Worlds were invited to investigate a Hotel in Tomintoul - Scotland called The Richmond Arms Hotel.

We arrived at roughly 7.00pm and took our bags to our rooms. One of my team members asked me to place a camera to look upon the fountain outside the Hotel as he was going to propose to his girlfriend.

Once this was done, I locked my room door (even though we were the only people in the Hotel) - and we all went outside at the back of the property to enjoy a BBQ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVkWubVIVAA

The second clip we have is from the same camera (as you'll be able to tell). You may have to turn your speakers up to hear the sound that we're unsure about - but we're more than happy for people to discuss the footage caught.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvIWA1TuvBY


What do you think?

The Team are not claiming that these video's are of a Paranormal Nature, we leave that up to you... but if anyone can explain how the first footage is caused it would be great. We'd also like you to bare in mind that there was no one in the building at the time of these clips, as we were all outside enjoying the BBQ till gone 9.00pm.



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visagephoto

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I cant hear the sound as I don't have speakers either,

But as the movement of the camera in the first clip seems to coincide with the passing of the car (and the camera returns to its original position), it could be surface movement due to vibration caused by the passing car.

It may be helpful if you could provide comparison clips of similar sized (or larger) vehicles passing over the same piece of roadway.
 
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Root 66 Woodshop

Hi Visage,

If you check out the other video you'll see another vehicle passing, albeit on the other side of the fountain.

We had considered vibrations, however during the two hours of filming a number of larger vehicles passed by the opposite window and there wasn't any movement whatsoever. You'd have thought that a much heavier vehicle within the same vicinity would/could have caused more movement...

Hi Owas,

The camera is a basic sony handycam 32GB HD camera... if it was to do with the "auto-focus" then the image would be blurred as it's trying to re-focus. Image stabilizer as far as I'm aware doesn't move the camera towards an object moving into shot and then re-position itself back into it's previous location (as far as I'm aware).

I've used this camera for the past 12 months, and I've had nothing like this happen before.

We use various camcorders and cameras during investigations - mainly because we like to check out how technology has been reduced and increased for it's variant uses.

For example, the old Sony hi8 Handycam's infra-red for night vision is 10x better than the quality of sony camcorders out there now... which is a shame really... although saves a fortune when we're looking at purchasing new cameras... we just go out and buy 2-3 second hand hi8's rather than spending £300-£500 on one Sony camera with a HD.

Two weeks ago, I went to a market and picked up a 35mm "Reporters camera" (made in Taiwan) for £10 :D today bought 8 35mm films for £1 each and 1 35mm film for £8.49 to check the difference in qualities of images caught... I'll probably send them off to Tesco's or some other processing place to get the pictures put onto CD :D - Can't wait!

I even got a nice camera bag for a fiver from two market stalls down - and it was a perfect fit for my new camera! :D
 
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Hi Visage,

If you check out the other video you'll see another vehicle passing, albeit on the other side of the fountain.

We had considered vibrations, however during the two hours of filming a number of larger vehicles passed by the opposite window and there wasn't any movement whatsoever. You'd have thought that a much heavier vehicle within the same vicinity would/could have caused more movement...

As the camera returns to the exact position it was in before it moved, it would suggest to me that the whole assembly, tripod/camera and floor moved in unison.

There's obviously a tree positioned between this room and the fountain on the pathway, and its roots will most likely extend under both the building and parts of the path, Therefore I reckon it may be possible that the vehicle in your clip could have disturbed these roots where they are close to the surface and subsequently and indirectly caused temporary floor displacement inside the room.

larger vehicles with a wider wheelbase may have missed the particular spot of the pathway where the tree roots are closer to the surface.

Maybe this is a question which could be better answered by a structural engineer.
 
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Root 66 Woodshop

Thanks for that Visage... Most intriguing.

I have been asked though by one of our team who has read your comment :)

If this is the case then wouldn't the camera be raised slightly causing slight elevation of footage rather than what appears to be movement to the right and back to almost central to it's original position?

We shall contact the owner of the property and put it to them that their maybe roots under the property that could potentially cause property damage, they can at least investigate this area further for their own peace of mind.

Thanks :)
 
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At a guess, I'd say it was this...


When you're zooming in on close details, handshake can ruin what was otherwise a great shot. Optical SteadyShot Active Mode is always on, boosting anti-shake performance by up to ten times compared to conventional optical stabilisation systems, thanks to an enlarged correction area on the shift lens. This is enhanced by new 3-Way Shake-Cancelling which reduces shake in three directions (left-right, up-down and roll), so you get beautifully composed images, even if you're filming while walking.

Of course, the simplest thing to do would be to set the camera up in the same place, and drive a car past to see if it does it again. This time, have someone in the room to see if the camera moves. I'll give you a clue. It won't, because there's no such thing as ghosts.
 
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Thanks for that Visage... Most intriguing.

I have been asked though by one of our team who has read your comment :)

If this is the case then wouldn't the camera be raised slightly causing slight elevation of footage rather than what appears to be movement to the right and back to almost central to it's original position?

We shall contact the owner of the property and put it to them that their maybe roots under the property that could potentially cause property damage, they can at least investigate this area further for their own peace of mind.

Thanks :)

Are you familiar with the expression "tounge in cheek"?
 
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Agree with CKG, I film for local events and gigs and this kind of thing happens occasionally with the shot stabilizer settings on. I'm not dismissing any paranormal, only that the community centre in my town is NOT haunted and this has happened a few times. It smells funny, but it's not haunted.
 
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