Whois 'Non trading individual'

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astutiumRob

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    giffgore said:
    If all he's done is lie to get his details removed from WHOIS, that's not really a big deal
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    It's a breach of the terms they agreed to at point of registration, and a quick email to Nominet will get that "fixed" for them if you're so inclined.

    giffgore said:
    It's not like lying to a domain registrar means he's lying to the HMRC (hopefully).
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    If they're prepared to lie about the little things relating to their business, how much would you want to trust them with your c/card details ?
     
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    othellotech said:
    It's a breach of the terms they agreed to at point of registration, and a quick email to Nominet will get that "fixed" for them if you're so inclined.
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    T&C's get broken every day. I jailbroke my iPod, that breaks Apple's T&C's. Doesn't really count for anything.

    If they're prepared to lie about the little things relating to their business, how much would you want to trust them with your c/card details ?
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    I don't trust any retailer but really well-known ones like Amazon to store credit card details, but I'd use PayPal to purchase off him if he sold something I wanted at a good price. Keeping your details off the WHOIS is good for privacy, and it can be difficult or impossible to buy a legit WHOIS privacy service on certain types of domains, so I say fair do's to him.
     
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    Posilan

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    giffgore said:
    I'd use PayPal to purchase off him if he sold something I wanted at a good price. Keeping your details off the WHOIS is good for privacy, and it can be difficult or impossible to buy a legit WHOIS privacy service on certain types of domains, so I say fair do's to him.
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    Would you still say that if they sold you a "pig in a poke"?

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    Posilan said:
    Would you still say that if they sold you a "pig in a poke"?

    Steve
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    Obviously not, but why assume that from a DNS record?

    It's also worth noting that the owner of the domain could have just innocently and honestly originally intended it to be used for non-trading purposes, but forgot to update the record later on. We're making assumptions here.
     
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    giffgore said:
    Obviously not, but why assume that from a DNS record?

    It's also worth noting that the owner of the domain could have just innocently and honestly originally intended it to be used for non-trading purposes, but forgot to update the record later on. We're making assumptions here.
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    I'd go with this.

    Many domains are registerd when people have an idea, or just like the name - years later they turn that idea into a business and completely forget that they should update the details on WHOIS
     
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    giffgore said:
    Obviously not, but why assume that from a DNS record?

    It's also worth noting that the owner of the domain could have just innocently and honestly originally intended it to be used for non-trading purposes, but forgot to update the record later on. We're making assumptions here.
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    I am sure that I am in this very position with a few of my domains. Domains I registered for business (current and future at the time of registration), I openly used my contact details. Domains I bought for non profit reasons, I hif my ID. some of those might well have crossed over, but I probably own north of 500 domains, so some have slipped through the net no doubt.

    In general though I have seen a couple of people doing this, I know of 1 person doing this and he/she is very vocal on this forum, in fact scathing at every turn. yet their site is non compliant with UK & EU law with regard business desclosure, and the domain is registered as a non trading individual. in short, no way to know who they are, when they are actually allowing legal contracts to be formed on their website.

    methinks the contracts may be un-enforceable though due to this :)
     
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    giffgore said:
    Obviously not, but why assume that from a DNS record?

    It's also worth noting that the owner of the domain could have just innocently and honestly originally intended it to be used for non-trading purposes, but forgot to update the record later on. We're making assumptions here.
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    Yes, quite agree - a lot of the time it could be accidental.

    My comment was aimed at your post which seemed to condone the action of deliberately concealing WHOIS information when you are a business:

    giffgore said:
    Keeping your details off the WHOIS is good for privacy, and it can be difficult or impossible to buy a legit WHOIS privacy service on certain types of domains, so I say fair do's to him.
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    Richard tj said:
    An individual, as opposed to a business, who has opted not to play their taxes/ NI and as such needs to remain annonymous. It may also pertain to complete fraud.
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    Er....a little bit over the top there! There are 101 legit reasons why people which not to have their details on the public register available for all to see.
     
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