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Hey peeps,
I am wondering if there is something like a UK top 10 list of SEO experts somewhere on the internet?
Something like the Forbes richest men etc

Thanks in advance
 
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never heard of one.
Google search results will give you a good a number of the best companies
 
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It would be a very subjective list though! It'd also be a bit like listing the UK's top ten logo designers - the other nine woud be very hotly contested! ;) :p

I can recommend a few SEO's who I think do good work. :)
 
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Eagle said:
It would be a very subjective list though! It'd also be a bit like listing the UK's top ten logo designers - the other nine woud be very hotly contested! ;) :p
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True, just thought there might of been one.
I just wanted to see what a 'friend' of mine was saying was true - That he has teamed up with 1 of the top 5 SEO experts in the UK.
Don't really want to say his name for obvious reasons.
 
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Eagle said:
It would be a very subjective list though! It'd also be a bit like listing the UK's top ten logo designers - the other nine woud be very hotly contested! ;) :p

I can recommend a few SEO's who I think do good work. :)
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Agree, good post :)
 
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But may be in this job also should exist some objective assessment criteria?
I mean first positions in search engine results.
Please, correct me if I'm mistaken.
 
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UK top 10 list of SEO experts somewhere on the internet?
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Yeah, their called Web designers. If you get a good one, they'll do the SEO for free as part of the site design fee.

'Expert lists' don't exist, and wouldn't pay attention to one if it did :D Its a waste of my good money.
 
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topseos dot com have list of agencies and attempt to rank them - does does not mean much tho. You still will not find the top uk SEOs here, like my good friend DaveN.
 
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SEO-Doctor said:
topseos dot com have list of agencies and attempt to rank them - does does not mean much tho. You still will not find the top uk SEOs here, like my good friend DaveN.
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blimey there all yanks they can't even speak english let alone do SEO.

and a mere 5 million turnover small stuff.;):)

Earl
 
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Google has list of the top 10 seo experts!!

You find the most competitive keyword for seo - which unsurprising is 'SEO' (673,000 uk monthly searches) and you plug it into Google.co.uk, I'd say those ranking in top 10 are the top 10 experts -
the proof is in the pudding as they say!

I doubt your friends 'expert' will be anywhere near the top for the term 'SEO' but that depends on if he has tried to get there I suppose! A good SEOr will pick the niche terms rather than compete for such competitive general terms! You could look at how his website fares in spyfu dot com, it will tell you what keyterms his page ranks for, if these terms are reasonably competitive (use google's keyword tool) and strategically chosen then he has to be pretty good...
 
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stunews said:
Google has list of the top 10 seo experts!!

You find the most competitive keyword for seo - which unsurprising is 'SEO' (673,000 uk monthly searches) and you plug it into Google.co.uk, I'd say those ranking in top 10 are the top 10 experts -
the proof is in the pudding as they say!
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That's not the way Google now works.
 
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topseos is indeed a paid list which is email blasted periodically.

The most accomplished SEO's rarely if ever try to rank for the keyword "SEO" - because they don't need to, as their reputation already carries.

Only the most sales-focused companies are hell bent on ranking for "SEO" as a keyword, but it's a very poorly converting term. Seems most people searching for "SEO" on Google are SEO companies and Google anti-spam team. :)
 
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The most accomplished SEO's rarely if ever try to rank for the keyword "SEO" - because they don't need to, as their reputation already carries.

If the experts don't target seo then how do people find them and know about them? as a small business i would have thought that people on page 1 are the best but most are scammers!
 
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I wouldn't dream of calling myself an SEO expert if I could not have my own site rank well in search engines for relevant generic search terms.

If I did call myself an expert I would expect to get laughed out of the room.

I disagree that a web designers job should cover your SEO needs. Sure, they can make a site SE 'friendly' but SEO is a complete subject in itself, it is a dynamic subject and something that is not only done at development stage.. it is an ongoing process.
 
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Gotta be an ongoing process, and how possible any1 can SEO a highly specific site??
Ok you can do things to a site in general, but whatabout the unique content? Is that not part of a good SEO? You gotta do research and more research and much more research if you wanna know about a specific field, to be able to optimize it!
Am i right or not?? Or i just have no idea??
 
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Hi,

OK here goes: In my opinion and experience and as others have said, Top SEO companies and individuals don't rank for "SEO", they have managed to get business in other ways and their business is now based on referrals, recommendations and carries itself.

Web Designers can make SEO friendly sites (we do) they will do some of the on-page SEO and some will help with off-page SEO, however it should always be looked at as a separate piece of work and is an ongoing process, done correctly is not cheap, it’s an investment like any other marketing and should be measured for ROI.

There are some situations in certain Niche's where you can rank highly for a few terms and do well, I have done this for single product sites, ranked No1 and made money, generally short term product lifecycle over Christmas, I repeat and move on when the product sales slowdown, even when the site remains at the No1 slot.

Although SEO should be taken seriously and companies should invest in this as part of their strategy, there are so many factors that need to be considered, some sites if unique enough and well built will naturally rank without much effort. A few (not a full list) of things that help are:

- Unique, on topic and useful content
- URL structures (and Domain name)
- Website structure and layout
- Clean code
- Correct use of Tags (Heading, Title, Meta, Image Alt)
- Correct use of keywords within content (Bold words/sentences, links)
- Breadcrumb navigation (not just for SEO) helps with user navigation
- On-topic and relevant Link building

Design and write content for your visitors/customers and many of the SEO factors will happen naturally, this is not saying you should not pay for SEO but designing and writing useful sites for your visitors is a good starting point

Regards
Stuart

P.S the above does not cover all aspects but it should help
 
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No I don't mena by chance but if you have a unique site, useful and informative content then (as an example) you'll get other sites linking to your site naturally, which helps
 
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Hi Upshot, good comments and a well thought out post with useful pointers but I'm well and truly with Earl on this one.

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if you have a unique site, useful and informative content then (as an example) you'll get other sites linking to your site naturally, which helps
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This is a comment frequently banded about on forums but when is the last time you saw a "unique site"?

I've done seo for lots of clients and, as I never work for two clients in the same market space this means all my clients offer something different to the next client but...... every one of my clients has loads of competitors because ultimately, they aren't selling anything unique whether it's a product or a service. In almost 14 years of work I've never had the urge to say to a client "Wow, I've never seen that product before"! Maybe it's just me, maybe my clients sell boring products and services because they're not unique.

Neither can I remember the last time I saw something "unique" on the web, something which stood out and made me feel inclined to link to it and tell all my friends.

I think if you're trying to make some money by selling your products or services online then it's going to be extremely unlikely that Joe Public links to you (and starts putting the word around) because they have to find you first, and that for the most part, begins on a search engine. If I told my clients that they don't need any seo, all they need is to write something unique about their product they're selling 'alongside a few more thousand competitors' then I don't think it'd go down too well.

In my opinion, seo kickstarts a site into visible view and from there it depends on whether you've got something of interest which will encourage Joe Public to link to you. This "write for your visitors and not for the search engines and the traffic will come" malarky doesn't sit right with me I'm afraid... where do your visitors come from if you haven't written for the search engines in the first place? You need to write for both at the same time, it can easily be done! Write just for your readers and you're likely to be waiting quite a while and, if it's a business that's behind the writing, then don't count on any income stream anytime soon.

Writing for the search engines, won't, if done properly, intrude on the user experience and can be done with almost complete transparency.

Just my 2c worth

Ray
 
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Tin said:
Hi Upshot, good comments and a well thought out post with useful pointers but I'm well and truly with Earl on this one.

This is a comment frequently banded about on forums but when is the last time you saw a "unique site"?

I've done seo for lots of clients and, as I never work for two clients in the same market space this means all my clients offer something different to the next client but...... every one of my clients has loads of competitors because ultimately, they aren't selling anything unique whether it's a product or a service. In almost 14 years of work I've never had the urge to say to a client "Wow, I've never seen that product before"! Maybe it's just me, maybe my clients sell boring products and services because they're not unique.

Neither can I remember the last time I saw something "unique" on the web, something which stood out and made me feel inclined to link to it and tell all my friends.

I think if you're trying to make some money by selling your products or services online then it's going to be extremely unlikely that Joe Public links to you (and starts putting the word around) because they have to find you first, and that for the most part, begins on a search engine. If I told my clients that they don't need any seo, all they need is to write something unique about their product they're selling 'alongside a few more thousand competitors' then I don't think it'd go down too well.

In my opinion, seo kickstarts a site into visible view and from there it depends on whether you've got something of interest which will encourage Joe Public to link to you. This "write for your visitors and not for the search engines and the traffic will come" malarky doesn't sit right with me I'm afraid... where do your visitors come from if you haven't written for the search engines in the first place? You need to write for both at the same time, it can easily be done! Write just for your readers and you're likely to be waiting quite a while and, if it's a business that's behind the writing, then don't count on any income stream anytime soon.

Writing for the search engines, won't, if done properly, intrude on the user experience and can be done with almost complete transparancy.

Just my 2c worth

Ray
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Hi Ray,

Thanks for the comments and good post.

I'll try and clarify what I was trying to get across (badly), Unique can means lots of things to lots of people, I had a site last Christmas promoting a single product (a Wii Game), I wrote the content myself (did not steal it from other sites) and did some keyword/phrase research and had a good domain, the site was and still is No1 and made lots of sales over Xmas, the game is old now so less sales.

So it's not a unique product but the content was unique (or at least worded differently) than other sites, this is what I meant by unique, not duplicate content that appears on hundreds of other sites and what was written was informative and useful to my site visitors and for SEO purposes.

I agree you have to be found before natural links happen and I would never suggest that you don't need SEO, I was simply saying that over time with the right site, right content and so on, then natural links can happen, all helping SEO and rankings...

I shot myself in the foot by saying "Design and write content for your visitors/customers and many of the SEO factors will happen naturally

By the above comment I mean certain things can happen over time, like natural linking, "of course once your found", people do link to sites they like but you should not be 100% reliant on this happening, it takes time and there is no guarantee, companies/individual should still look at using SEO services, any extra links gained naturally will be a bonus.

So yes people need SEO, and should be long term/ongoing strategy

Thanks
Stuart
 
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Unique can means lots of things to lots of people
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The word 'unique' is misunderstood, and bcos of that - many new things aren't created.

So it's not a unique product but the content was unique (or at least worded differently) than other sites, this is what I meant by unique
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Putting a slant on exisiting products or services isn't unique. Ideas are a pleanty, unique ones are not.

The word unique means 'Never been done before', but thats too general a definition and people think that by changing something minor will suddenly make a copied idea into a unique idea - it won't and won't be accepted as unique either.

Unique means the entire concept must be totally different, brand new, never been done by anyone else - ever, as that's the true meaning. What do I mean by this? well, one example is Youtube, that is a true example of uniqueness in its entirety, a use of current offline technology, but designed for the web (a new medium), that captured a huge user base and audience. But Youtube is a one-off, like the Alex Tew idea MDH, so if anyone can just come up with such quality/inventions we'd all be billionaires, but that will never happen. Hence, the word Unique!

Unique only happens for the few, sometimes just luck plays a part, you think of that one idea, and it just works, it's perfect etc - but this isn't the case for most and much brainstorming is involved in this, from the idea, right down to the perfect domain name, to idea longevity, expansion plans, possible media interest, investment opportunity and exit strategy etc.

Many try and force ideas, which is the biggest mistake going, and the wrong way to brainstorm - true entrepruneurs solve problems or make lives easier for the masses. And where unique ideas are concerned, I can tell you that making money is the minor incentive here - it goes far deeper than that.

 
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Back to the original question...

If there WERE a list of top SEO's the majority of people wouldn't be able to afford them anyway :)
 
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I would also recommend DaveN, he's definitely one of the World's best SEO's
 
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People come to look at goodies not webpages.End of.:rolleyes:
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Must disagree with you Earl, - people look for websites for the information, then maybe it will turn into a sale. But, information on it's own isn't enough - a website must attract/nice design style etc to draw people in! - and is what aids the decision-making process. The plain text-only website won't work.

Attractiveness is everything. SEO helps, but the majority of big-names were established years before the web got invented, so they already had the massive super following, thus any sales were already assured for years to come. Majority of sites don't have this advantage, and its such a big disadvantage.
 
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I would also recommend DaveN, he's definitely one of the World's best SEO's
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Afraid young david spoils his pitch a tad with statements like this:

"David's main motivational driving force is the belief that there is no point having a site if it doesn't rank No 1. His dedication to giving clients great ROI has lead to the constant development of new optimisation techniques and the ability to see algorithmic changes before most other SEO's. David Naylor has the reputation of being one of the best SEO's in the world, who has a proven track record of successes in the most competitive markets."

Plus no examples of any actual client results is always a bit sus.

besides a low forehead does not bode well.

Also everyone knows all the best SEO's are over 65.:rolleyes::)

Earl
 
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Can people give any actual examples of seo companies or individual people who they would actually recommend and have used and seen results for etc?
 
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Must disagree with you Earl, - people look for websites for the information, then maybe it will turn into a sale. But, information on it's own isn't enough - a website must attract/nice design style etc to draw people in! - and is what aids the decision-making process. The plain text-only website won't work.

Attractiveness is everything. SEO helps, but the majority of big-names were established years before the web got invented, so they already had the massive super following, thus any sales were already assured for years to come. Majority of sites don't have this advantage, and its such a big disadvantage.
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Yes of course your quite right,I forget I am mainly interested in people who come to buy products from us.

In which case I would stand by my statement.:)

Earl
 
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Earl, I believe he uses non disclosure agreements with all his clients - so he can't say who they are, but I know he's got top rankings for many competitive industries and works with many big brands. He has been recommended by two people in the same post for god's sake! I don't see any other SEO's getting recommended like that...
 
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Jim Boykin and his team (webuildpages [dot] com) is one of the industry's pionieers.
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How do you come to that conclusion.

Pioneers refers to a person who does it first.

when i was first introduced to SEO I picked the head of a guy called Barry lloyd.
Had a company called make me top if i recall. Now he was a very good at seo and i learned a lot from what he said.
Aint seen much of him around page one but i will class him as one of the best i knew.
 
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