Paying Tax when you are on PAYE and Self-Employed

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ginantonic

I have a part time PAYE job and am also self employed with my own business, and pay tax at the regular rate on the PAYE job. As I have a low income from being self employed, it tends to even out, sometimes I get a rebate, other times I owe a small amount of tax. You have to do a Tax Return (Self Assessment) annually - in which you declare both incomes, then the Tax office do the rest for you.
 
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As ginantonic says, your tax return catches this.

You record your info from your P60, also put in what you have earned from self employment and your new tax laibility can be calculated.

If you were owe the tax man, you would normally be then required to pay up.
 
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David Griffiths

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    Actually, if the tax that you owe is less than £2,000 and you get your tax return in early enough, you have the option to have the tax deducted from the following year's PAYE code.

    That means that you don't have to put your hand in your pocket (the tax man puts his hand in your pocket directly! :) ) but it can make the tax deductions from your salary look a bit 'orrible. Not everybody likes that.
     
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    Thanks David, have not had to do this yet, so watching for it when I do.

    I would hope that I put enough away to cover the tax bill when due rather than mess with my tax code.
    But I suppose sometimes easier said than done :redface:
     
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    Thanks for the very helpful replies. So, I am assuming the way this works is, My total annual income from both sources is calculated and I pay the balance of the tax from my business income. For e.g.

    My Salary: £34,000
    Profit from Business: £8,000

    Total Income: £42,000

    Tax & NI payable: 11,183

    So, if say 8000 was deducted under the PAYE system, the balance would be payable via the self-assesment form?

    Also, if I made a loss on the business, would I be able to get the additional tax paid via PAYE refunded?

    Thanks Again
     
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    swimfan

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    hi all, some good reads on here, as i am considering starting up small with a self employed job. i am a painter and decorator by trade, but recession in 1993 meant looking elsewhere, and i have been in the railway industry since. BUT, i am wanting out, so before giving up my £32K plus a year salary, i want to spend as long as it takes to get my self employment off the ground without falling flat on my face, by keeping my salaried job, build up the business locally to me, as currently i drive in my own car receiving no expenses, 120 miles a day 5 days a week.....and when i have a sound built reputation by advertising and word of mouth, give up my salaried job to remain self employed.....i understand i can be both PAYE and s/e....i also know, as was s/e from 1990 to 1993, that start up year is expensive and could run at a loss, hence the fall back onto salary....i will need a van, plant,tools additional to what i already have and fuel costs....If i earn £32k in 2012/13, and was s/e and income was say £5k but expenses were huge, if an accountant did my books, and i was clearly running a loss making business, would i get a tax refund from my PAYE...?
    thank you
     
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    Anna Chandley

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    hi all, some good reads on here, as i am considering starting up small with a self employed job. i am a painter and decorator by trade, but recession in 1993 meant looking elsewhere, and i have been in the railway industry since. BUT, i am wanting out, so before giving up my £32K plus a year salary, i want to spend as long as it takes to get my self employment off the ground without falling flat on my face, by keeping my salaried job, build up the business locally to me, as currently i drive in my own car receiving no expenses, 120 miles a day 5 days a week.....and when i have a sound built reputation by advertising and word of mouth, give up my salaried job to remain self employed.....i understand i can be both PAYE and s/e....i also know, as was s/e from 1990 to 1993, that start up year is expensive and could run at a loss, hence the fall back onto salary....i will need a van, plant,tools additional to what i already have and fuel costs....If i earn £32k in 2012/13, and was s/e and income was say £5k but expenses were huge, if an accountant did my books, and i was clearly running a loss making business, would i get a tax refund from my PAYE...?
    thank you

    A self employed loss can be set against employment income and may result in a tax refund.

    If your self employment loss in 2012/13 is say £10,000 then your total taxable income after offsetting losses would be £22,000. You will probably have had tax deducted at source on the top £10,000 of employment income of 20% - £2000, which will be refunded to you.

    Anna
     
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    swimfan

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    i see what you are saying. as i am starting this job this week, would i expect the tax side to be worked out april 2013 and the refund arrive in the post thereafter.
    things i have thought of to go as expenses would include:

    use of own vehicle or purchase of van
    fuel (driving to customers to price work, and then the trips back and forth
    doing it, if the price was accepted)
    vehicle maintenance,
    plant; ladders, trestles, steps
    tools,overalls,boots,clothes,dust sheets etc
    home as office allowance,
    vehicle and board signage,

    anymore ideas?

    thanks
     
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