Accounting period ?

[Wild Goose]

Originally Posted by elainec100

Didn't think the style was old fashion - my hair dresser is going to be so annoyed at you!

It's very retro - short, back'n sides I'd say.

Bet you had it cut in Liverpool!

[elainec100@cheapaccounting]

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

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Bet you had it cut in Liverpool!

No darling - I live over the other side of the water

[Wild Goose]

That'd be the posh bit on the left, then. Bit close to Wales for comfort?

[eu.solitaire]

Thank you for your advice.

But what is complicated? I formed the company via Coddan.co.uk, they said everything is simple. They said, you don't have to worry. And now I see how everything is difficult! I have completed the accounting in Excel.

Wild Goose:
My LTD company starts trading (my first invoice / receiving money) on May 2009. Unfortunately, I haven't sent CT41G, because I didn't not know my Reference Number. I urged the HMRC and they sent the letter with Reference Number only 2 weeks ago. I had to change the address of registered office, because Coddan.co.uk agent isn't reliable. My new agent is Quick Formations Ltd, they forward the letters within 3 days. I want to send CT41G to the end of the year, you say I get fined 300 GBP?

[Wild Goose]

Originally Posted by eu.solitaire

Wild Goose:
My LTD company starts trading (my first invoice / receiving money) on May 2009. Unfortunately, I haven't sent CT41G, because I didn't not know my Reference Number. I urged the HMRC and they sent the letter with Reference Number only 2 weeks ago. I had to change the address of registered office, because Coddan.co.uk agent isn't reliable. My new agent is Quick Formations Ltd, they forward the letters within 3 days. I want to send CT41G to the end of the year, you say I get fined 300 GBP?

OK, so that's a DCA (Dormant Company Accounts) to 30 April 2009 (see Companies House Website for form DCA for Cos that have never traded - easy stuff.

Followed by a "full" set of accounts covering the period from 1st May 2009 to your accounting date in 2009, 30th November (even if you began trading on some other date in May, rather than 1st of the month).

You're overdue on form CT41g and, according to the book, fines start @ £300. That can increase. Did you tell HMRC by phone or letter that you had commenced trading, and if so was that within 3 months of commencement? (HMRC will accept eg a written letter rather than form 41g - that came up for me on a live case just last week - but I'm not certain they would accept verbal notice).

I still say you're risking paying too much tax or possibly fines if you DIY - a good accountant would pay for themselves.

[David Griffiths]

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

OK, so that's a DCA (Dormant Company Accounts) to 30 April 2009 (see Companies House Website for form DCA for Cos that have never traded - easy stuff.

That's form AA02 in the brave new world of the Companies Act 2006.

[eu.solitaire]

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Did you tell HMRC by phone or letter that you had commenced trading.

I phoned to local Tax Office North London (Middlesex) on September, because I haven't the Reference Number, and I cannot send CT41G. I received a letter from HMRC ("Important Reminder") two weeks ago and now I fill in this form.

[David Griffiths]

Originally Posted by eu.solitaire

, because I haven't the Reference Number, and I cannot send CT41G.

That's not correct. It is not essential to have a reference number to send in the form. We've had plenty of examples over the years, where the client claims not to have received a reference or admits to having lost it. We send in the form with no reference and a covering letter and the Revenue can always trace the company from the incorporation number.

(For some years now I've incorporated all new companies with our office as the first registered office to make sure that we get the CT41G and reference and that it's dealt with. The R/O is then changed to where it should be. )

[elainec100@cheapaccounting]

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

OK, so that's a DCA (Dormant Company Accounts) to 30 April 2009 (see Companies House Website for form DCA for Cos that have never traded - easy stuff.

Followed by a "full" set of accounts covering the period from 1st May 2009 to your accounting date in 2009, 30th November (even if you began trading on some other date in May, rather than 1st of the month).

You're overdue on form CT41g and, according to the book, fines start @ £300. That can increase. Did you tell HMRC by phone or letter that you had commenced trading, and if so was that within 3 months of commencement? (HMRC will accept eg a written letter rather than form 41g - that came up for me on a live case just last week - but I'm not certain they would accept verbal notice).

I still say you're risking paying too much tax or possibly fines if you DIY - a good accountant would pay for themselves.

Just to clarify this - to file dormant accounts to 30th April you would need to shorten the accounting reference date to 30 April.

Then file dormant accounts

Then change the ref date to 30 Nov

[elainec100@cheapaccounting]

You can even file a CT600 without a ref number as long as you have the company number - paper copy that is